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Does wind affect lighter riders more?

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Old 09-16-08 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gregf83
We're talking about someone who loses excess weight and maintains their strength. Those lil skinny guys would be even slower if they packed on some extra fat.
Oh, OK! Well I was replying to the original post, not yours!
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Old 09-16-08 | 02:08 PM
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Ahhhh! Sooooo that's why all the lil skinny guys challenge me to 10,000 ft climbs but never on the flats into a 40 mph wind!
Yes, power to weight vs. raw power
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Old 09-16-08 | 02:14 PM
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Who would lose? I cannot tell what you are saying here.

If I lose weight and retain power, i.e. I lose fat, then at 180 pounds versus 200 pounds, I would have to be faster. I would have a better power to weight ratio and less wind resistance due to a smaller frontal area and probably a more aerodynamic profile.

One of the racers at the training ride said that when he lost 20 pounds his speed went up dramatically. We are riding a very flat course.
OK...Let me clarify my point. Over distance you, at 180#, will lose to you at 200# in a headwind. There was a hypothetical question posed and I gave a hypothetical response. Further more I said "all things being equal" meaning every single thing except weight does not change...not your shape, not your weight to strength ratio, not your fitness, not your bike etc.

The OP did not ask a stupid question which would deserve a stupid answer. Rather the OP asked a hypothetical question which does deserve a hypothetical (albeit completely useless) answer.

So...how many angels can dance on the headset of a Pinarello?
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Old 09-16-08 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobby Lex
ROFLMAO.

Absolutely. If you were in a race against yourself, one of you would certainly lose. But, then again, one of you also would certainly win. Or maybe not. I guess you could end up in a tie.

Could you repeat the question again?



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Old 09-16-08 | 02:54 PM
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Assuming frontal area is the same for both riders, which is the assumption we use to say a heavier rider coasts down a hill faster, a headwind will affect each equally. The wind won't slow a heavier rider as much, but it takes the same amount of energy for both to re-acquire the same speed.
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Old 09-16-08 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
Assuming frontal area is the same for both riders, which is the assumption we use to say a heavier rider coasts down a hill faster, a headwind will affect each equally. The wind won't slow a heavier rider as much, but it takes the same amount of energy for both to re-acquire the same speed.
My head hurts.

This doesn't make sense. If the heavier rider isn't slowed down as much as the lighter rider, then it doesn't matter if it takes the same amount of energy to get back to speed. The heavier rider doesn't have as far to go accelerate to the same speed both were maintaining. The little guy has to work harder/longer to get there.

Need more coffee.

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Old 09-16-08 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
Assuming frontal area is the same for both riders, which is the assumption we use to say a heavier rider coasts down a hill faster, a headwind will affect each equally. The wind won't slow a heavier rider as much, but it takes the same amount of energy for both to re-acquire the same speed.
"We" don't assume that frontal area is the same, just that frontal area increases less percentagewise than weight does.

If you scale it up, a rider that is twice as tall, twice as wide, has 4 times the frontal area but will have 8 times the weight, 8 times the muscle mass.
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Old 09-16-08 | 03:56 PM
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It's sort of a leap to assume that power on a bike is going to be proportional to muscle mass...
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