Titanium is difficult to bond
09-23-08 | 08:36 PM
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pan y agua
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Titanium is difficult to bond
Titanium while having desireable ride qualities is difficult to bond. It can only be welded in an inert environment. The need for an oxygen free environment makes it difficult to get a lasting bond, and taking the oxygen out, can suck the life out of the end result.
Hence I'm afraid I can no longer be a member of the "titanium club"
Hence I'm afraid I can no longer be a member of the "titanium club"
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You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
09-23-08 | 08:55 PM
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but think of all the medical applications Ti has for you after a carbon explosion! 
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09-23-08 | 09:02 PM
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I know you are not a troll, and I know I ride a titanium bike that is approaching 30 years old...so I think I must be missing your point? When does the life go out of the end result, so I can dismount just prior?
09-23-08 | 09:05 PM
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Bikes: Crap. The box is not big enough...
ah, excuse me. I did not realize. Carry on.
09-23-08 | 09:13 PM
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Titanium while having desireable ride qualities is difficult to bond. It can only be welded in an inert environment. The need for an oxygen free environment makes it difficult to get a lasting bond, and taking the oxygen out, can suck the life out of the end result.
Hence I'm afraid I can no longer be a member of the "titanium club"
Hence I'm afraid I can no longer be a member of the "titanium club"
09-23-08 | 09:15 PM
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This is a top 10 for me.
09-23-08 | 09:22 PM
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And a tip of the hat.
09-23-08 | 09:23 PM
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Bikes: Crap. The box is not big enough...
Geez. Almost an honor roll, of sorts.
09-24-08 | 06:30 AM
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The term "bond" usually refers to "joining" via adhesion rather than welding, which involves liquefying surfaces to be joined. Ti is used heavily in all kinds of high performance engineering applications, usually involving corrosive environments and/or high temperatures. Issues related to a product's service life have little to do with the material and everything to do with the engineering and fabrication process. As for a frame, more Ti in the right places should increase service life.
09-24-08 | 06:40 AM
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MEL, I too share your thoughts, the exclusive Titanium Club is just too rich for me and all attempts to sanitize other bike building materials seem to be veiled efforts to "put lipstick on a pig."
Just saying.
Just saying.
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09-24-08 | 06:44 AM
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The term "bond" usually refers to "joining" via adhesion rather than welding, which involves liquefying surfaces to be joined. Ti is used heavily in all kinds of high performance engineering applications, usually involving corrosive environments and/or high temperatures. Issues related to a product's service life have little to do with the material and everything to do with the engineering and fabrication process. As for a frame, more Ti in the right places should increase service life.
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You could fall off a cliff and die.
You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
You could fall off a cliff and die.
You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
09-24-08 | 06:51 AM
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09-24-08 | 06:59 AM
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