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Old 11-20-08 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Doohickie

As as for the third reason, why would I want to follow anyone with an attitude like this?



I was genuinely curious and really wanted to learn. And what I learned is that there are no compelling reasons for doing it in my case, since I don't look like a missing link.

Why should he want to educate someone who won't educate themselves?
This topic has been covered ad nauseum, use the search.
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Old 11-20-08 | 09:48 PM
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Correct. I'll tell you a psychology secret:

EVERYTHING in the world is driven by the desire for sex. Everything we do revolves around the desire for sex. Everything other animals do is also motivated by sex. Sex makes the world go 'round.

Vanity is just a way to get more sex. So is cycling. And working. And having money. And buying cars. And studying at an institution of higher learning. There isn't a single thing that doesn't relate back to sex.

Free life lesson for ya.
reproduction cannot exist without survival so id argue that food and fight/flight from harm trump sex..
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Old 11-20-08 | 09:52 PM
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So, if someone asks a repeat question, you can either:

1. Ignore the post, or,

2. PILE ON because it's so FUN!

Thanks, guys, I hope you enjoyed yourselves.


FreddytheFish- thanks for your answer; it was nice to get a level-headed, rational one.


I don't do serious riding for speed. I do it for exercise and commuting and trying to go "car-light". I don't plan on getting any kind of bicycle computer because I think that would take all the fun out of it; I just like the freedom of being out there on a bike. I realize I'll never have the discipline and devote enough time and money to be top-notch. I was just looking for understanding. For those who gave me some, thanks.
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Old 11-20-08 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Nachoman
In your professional psychological opinion, does this theory apply to women too? I know a bunch of women that would dispute. But most men I know would probably agree.
Women are wired differently, their genetic drive is to raise children until sexual maturity so they can carry on their DNA. Men plant the seed but the soil needs to be 'nurtured' for the plant to grow if you know what I mean. Of course all this has nothing to do with societies current meme's and how we define sexuality as a culture, and this includes the estrogen laden, leg shaving cyclist....

like the other guy said above, its all about vanity but who cares, many things are..
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Old 11-20-08 | 09:59 PM
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To "look like a skinny-ass girl"; whadya think?
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Old 11-20-08 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Doohickie
So, if someone asks a repeat question, you can either:

1. Ignore the post, or,

2. PILE ON because it's so FUN!

Thanks, guys, I hope you enjoyed yourselves.


FreddytheFish- thanks for your answer; it was nice to get a level-headed, rational one.


I don't do serious riding for speed. I do it for exercise and commuting and trying to go "car-light". I don't plan on getting any kind of bicycle computer because I think that would take all the fun out of it; I just like the freedom of being out there on a bike. I realize I'll never have the discipline and devote enough time and money to be top-notch. I was just looking for understanding. For those who gave me some, thanks.

dang, I just cant understand why a guy would want to spend the time, I hate shaving my face everyday for work as it is.....
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Old 11-20-08 | 10:22 PM
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It must be winter in other parts of the country
On the bright side,snow does not catch fire.
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Old 11-20-08 | 10:30 PM
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Good cyclists know how to fall, too (or at least should!).
I love this old chestnut. As if you have any time to react in most falls.

About the only thing I've been able to teach myself is not to put my arm out on the way down. Even though I've seen plenty of pros do it, with predictable results.
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Old 11-20-08 | 10:45 PM
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Big difference between falling at 10mph wearing jeans and sliding out at at 35mph wearing lycra, hoss.

I'd know. Been there, done both.
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Old 11-20-08 | 11:03 PM
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I've fallen in them before and they protected me, I'm not racing so my falls most likely won't be epic. .
Oh Nick, you have a lot to learn.

Christmas Eve two years ago I went down on PCH wearing a windbreaker, arm warmers and knickers while riding with some BF guys. I still ended up with road rash, even through all of those layers.

The real bummer was that I was going through this super crunchy "au natural" stage where I was letting my leg hair grow out and it was a total pain in the ass to clean the wounds.






























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Old 11-20-08 | 11:40 PM
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i can barely find the motivation to shave my FACE! also i'm a REALLY hairy dude, so shaving my legs would be a huge pain in the ass.. plus shaved legs feel weird against the fabric of my pants!! also if I get 50th out of 100 in a race, i can say i had an aero disadvantage, plus the guys behind me are like "OH CRAP THE HAIRY LEG DUDE BEAT ME"
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Old 11-20-08 | 11:41 PM
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you never bombed hills skating?
I hit the skate park, the local community parks, etc. We don't have any roads around here that would be safe enough, or close enough, to realistically ride down them at that speed.

So, damn near all of my wrecks were a result of f***ing up a barrel roll or kick flip or whatever, while trying to jump a park bench or the like.

Not quite the same as high-siding in a bumpy crit corner.
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Old 11-21-08 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Doohickie
- Easier to clean out road burn
- Vanity
- Following the like crowd like a sheep

I hadn't considered the first reason, but it kind of makes sense. The second is understandable, but I'm not that concerned with appearance.
If it was about road burn, would you want to basically shave your knees, your elbows, shoulders if need be, and your ass? Every time I've hit the ground, that's what end up hurting. Not my calves or thighs.
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Old 11-21-08 | 12:51 AM
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If it was about road burn, would you want to basically shave your knees, your elbows, shoulders if need be, and your ass? Every time I've hit the ground, that's what end up hurting. Not my calves or thighs.
I don't know what kind of hairy ape-man you are, but I don't have hair on my elbows and shoulder. Knees are part of the legs, they are shaved. My rash has been mostly knees, thighs, and elbows. My collarbone accident also left a nice rash on the back of my shoulder.
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Old 11-21-08 | 02:05 AM
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... id argue that food and fight/flight from harm trump sex..
You must be a virgin...
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Old 11-21-08 | 02:14 AM
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The reason you got that attitude from umd is because you not only asked a question that gets asked 3 times a week, you asked a stupid question that gets asked three times a week.

Just search. Or you could have just looked at the front page, there was another thread about shaving right there in front of you. I think they were actually next to each other at one point.

Get over yourself.
The reason he got that attitude is the same locker-room mentality that leads to everyone shaving their legs.

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And you never will...
Case in point.
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Old 11-21-08 | 06:33 AM
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Old 11-21-08 | 07:04 AM
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It's tradition.

Guys in the pack will be less likely to trust you if they see that you haven't at least committed to shaving.

Road rash - yes...I crashed pretty hard about a month ago wearing bib shorts and overtights. It was still enough to break the skin in several places.

Massage - obvious

Applying embrocation to the legs - you do NOT want hair there when it comes time to wash that stuff off.

If you get to the point of investing in a skinsuit and aero helmet for your time trial rig and still are sporting sasquatch legs, well..... it's certainly possible, but why?
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Old 11-21-08 | 07:51 AM
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Hate to tell you but every chick I've talked to hates it.
Hate to tell you but you've been talking to the wrong chicks.

Shaved legs are hot!
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Old 11-21-08 | 08:05 AM
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For me it is fitting in, especially in the upper levels of riding. When you come to a new ride, especially if it is a more competitive ride, and nobody knows you, how do they judge you (at first sight)?

Anybody can buy an expensive bike.

They look at your legs. Are you committed enough to shave your legs?

Plus, my calves look better shaved.
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Old 11-21-08 | 08:29 AM
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The reason he got that attitude is the same locker-room mentality that leads to everyone shaving their legs.
Incorrect. The reason I got that mentality is because people ask the same question over and over again, and are never satisfied with the answer. You can think it's the "locker room mentality" if that allows you to sleep better at night, but the truth of the matter is that I started shaving after a series of bad crashes, and I keep shaving because I like it. I like how it looks, and I like how it feels, it does help with massages & road rash, and that's enough for me. Some people may do it to show they are "commited" or to "fit in", but that's not why I do it.

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Case in point.
Incorrect. It's pretty clear that people continually ask this question not because they want to understand but because they want to "point and laugh". Most people have preconceived ideas about shaving and if they haven't already believed the reasons given they aren't going to suddenly change their mind. But if you want to think that my being flippant about it somehow proves you point, then there is no hope for you to understand either.
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The second is understandable, but I'm not that concerned with appearance.
I can tell from your mug in your avatar.

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As as for the third reason, why would I want to follow anyone with an attitude like this?
Who asked you to be a sheep? If it doesn't make sense to you, then don't do it. People should do it when they are frustrated by their hair being pulled, or poking through things, etc., not because "everyone else is doing it". If you have to ask...
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Old 11-21-08 | 08:38 AM
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Shaving helps with keeping a good tegaderm seal when you have road rash. Nothing better than waking up in the middle of the night sticking to your sheets and then have your spouse get mad because the sheets have to be changed at 2 am.
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