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Lazyrider 12-18-08 05:56 PM

Isaac Impulse arrived
 
and I must say it is a really nice frame. The BB, downtube, headtube and chainstays are MASSIVE. I was hoping to pick up a Parlee but other priorities called and I went with my other top choice, Isaac. I hope to build this up for about the price of the Parlee frame alone with spare parts and some new stuff I will pick up at the LBS.

The LBS that I like near me carries Parlee but I couldn't find not ONE Isaac dealer in my state so I went to the internet and snagged this at 30% off. I will order some needed parts from the LBS and have them build this up for me in a few weeks.

I have to say though, my Mongoose Bosberg is more nicely finished than this Isaac which retail cost for frame alone was more than the MSRP of the Mongoose complete bike. This has nothing to do with the ride quality, but as far as the fit and finish, my Mongoose and my friend's Pedal Force are equally as nice in that regard.


At the price I got this Isaac, I am able to accept spending the extra money for the name, but some detail near the dropouts and the decals are nothing show stopping.
http://gallery.roadbikereview.com/da...ke/500/ISa.JPG
http://gallery.roadbikereview.com/da...ke/500/ISb.JPG

patentcad 12-18-08 06:03 PM

You never answered my questions about the Issac in the last thread. You're dead to me now.

Bikelyst 12-18-08 06:30 PM

ideas on group?

triplebutted 12-18-08 06:42 PM

Was it an impulse buy?

Johannes 12-18-08 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by triplebutted (Post 8044141)
Was it an impulse buy?

make that an impulse bargain :)

some "impulse" must have been involved otherwise we would look at the picture of a sump pump or a scanned treasury note.

congrats!

kudude 12-18-08 06:55 PM

you are already sounding like you're regretting spending the money on it. Now you're going to PAY someone else to build it?


It's just a matter of time until you try to sell it used for less than it's going to cost you.

I'm sorry for your loss

halfspeed 12-18-08 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Johannes (Post 8044160)
make that an impulse bargain :)

some "impulse" must have been involved otherwise we would look at the picture of a CF bike pump or a scanned treasury note.

congrats!

Fixed.


Originally Posted by kudude (Post 8044200)
you are already sounding like you're regretting spending the money on it. Now you're going to PAY someone else to build it?


It's just a matter of time until you try to sell it used for less than it's going to cost you.

I'm sorry for your loss

Hopefully he can sell it before it explodes.

Johannes 12-18-08 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by kudude (Post 8044200)
you are already sounding like you're regretting spending the money on it. Now you're going to PAY someone else to build it?


It's just a matter of time until you try to sell it used for less than it's going to cost you.

I'm sorry for your loss

smart of you to start early on the bidding :). let him put 30.000miles on that baby before he trades it in for your huffy.

patentcad 12-18-08 07:01 PM

I do find the brand name 'Issac' disturbingly biblical.

DScott 12-18-08 07:01 PM

Who makes those frames?

kudude 12-18-08 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Johannes (Post 8044240)
smart of you to start early on the bidding :). let him put 30.000miles on that baby before he trades it in for your huffy.

??

DScott 12-18-08 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 8044250)
I do find the brand name 'Issac' disturbingly biblical.

Just stop!

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-s...aac_hayes1.jpg

Johannes 12-18-08 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by DScott (Post 8044252)
Who makes those frames?

british trademark. engineered in germany. made in asia. not biblical but inspired by newton.

Johannes 12-18-08 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by kudude (Post 8044255)
??

sorry if i got you wrong. you sounded a bit negative for a thread that celebrates the acquisition of an only mildly overpriced frameset in which case i apologize.

triplebutted 12-18-08 07:11 PM

I'm getting me one of these. Looks like all the other carbons out there without the Nascar'esk stickers on it.

http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/b.../bike/511a.jpg

patentcad 12-18-08 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by DScott (Post 8044259)

Even that Issac is riding Jesus' Pimpmobile. He's dead.

Johannes 12-18-08 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by triplebutted (Post 8044310)
I'm getting me one of these. Looks like all the other carbons out there without the Nascar'esk stickers on it.

http://www.8ball.co.uk/productimages/25790-2.jpg

yes but no but yes but no...

compare the frames detail by detail and see if you find the difference. i'm talking about the two frames shown. it's night and day. one more reason to go with the isaac. if you don't figure the difference then the frame you posted is the right one for you anyway. win win situation.

redirekib 12-18-08 07:18 PM

They say this cat Shaft is a bad mother
SHUT YOUR MOUTH!
I'm talkin' 'bout Shaft.
THEN WE CAN DIG IT!

Lazyrider 12-18-08 07:22 PM

No,
I don't regret spending $ on this frame because I got a relatively good deal on it. But sometimes I question the retail cost of some of these "higher end" frames. It will all be about the ride once I get it on the road. Aesthetically though, I love its simplicity. This Isaac is the carbon equivalent to my Litespeed brushed ti as far as its basic look. But that is appealing to me.



Originally Posted by kudude (Post 8044200)
you are already sounding like you're regretting spending the money on it. Now you're going to PAY someone else to build it?


It's just a matter of time until you try to sell it used for less than it's going to cost you.

I'm sorry for your loss


Flatballer 12-18-08 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by Johannes (Post 8044338)
http://www.8ball.co.uk/productimages/25790-2.jpg

yes but no but yes but no...

compare the frames detail by detail and see if you find the difference. i'm talking about the two frames shown. it's night and day. one more reason to go with the isaac. if you don't figure the difference then the frame you posted is the right one for you anyway. win win situation.

You mean besides the fact they're completely different frames and have different geometry? One of them has bottle cages and the other doesn't. One has a carbon fiber steerer. One has some words on it.

What's your point?

Lazyrider 12-18-08 07:28 PM

I kinda agree with you about some of the generic frames as they can be as good of a bike. The one you posted is ok, I hate that carbon weave though. As far as the Isaac decals, they are one of the main reasons for why I like the look of the bike. Simple and understated.
The tubes on the Isaac are MASSIVE though and this frame is raced by professional teams which at least shows it is up to the challenge of racing. I am sure an generic company can make a frame that looks similar, but will likely weigh a significant amount more. I am impressed with Pedal Force's RS2 that a friend has because the weight is low.



Originally Posted by triplebutted (Post 8044310)
I'm getting me one of these. Looks like all the other carbons out there without the Nascar'esk stickers on it.

http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/b.../bike/511a.jpg


Johannes 12-18-08 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by Flatballer (Post 8044388)
You mean besides the fact they're completely different frames and have different geometry? One of them has bottle cages and the other doesn't. One has a carbon fiber steerer. One has some words on it.

What's your point?

thank you for repeating my question. nice to have an echo :-)

patentcad 12-18-08 07:32 PM

Why didn't you get a Cervelo?

Johannes 12-18-08 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 8044420)
Why didn't you get a Cervelo?

you are late. what took you so long?

Lazyrider 12-18-08 07:39 PM

Cuz I am not a Lemming. Nice bikes but I hate the way they look. The Olympic paint is the only one I like and I wouldn't drop that kind of $ on a frame anymore.


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 8044420)
Why didn't you get a Cervelo?


Johannes 12-18-08 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by Lazyrider (Post 8044390)
I kinda agree with you about some of the generic frames as they can be as good of a bike. The one you posted is ok, I hate that carbon weave though. As far as the Isaac decals, they are one of the main reasons for why I like the look of the bike. Simple and understated.
The tubes on the Isaac are MASSIVE though and this frame is raced by professional teams which at least shows it is up to the challenge of racing. I am sure an generic company can make a frame that looks similar, but will likely weigh a significant amount more. I am impressed with Pedal Force's RS2 that a friend has because the weight is low.

i ride an RS2 and like it. i like it better than that bottecchia or what that is, but i sure would trade it in for this isaac.

Psimet2001 12-18-08 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Lazyrider (Post 8044390)
I kinda agree with you about some of the generic frames as they can be as good of a bike. The one you posted is ok, I hate that carbon weave though. As far as the Isaac decals, they are one of the main reasons for why I like the look of the bike. Simple and understated.
The tubes on the Isaac are MASSIVE though and this frame is raced by professional teams which at least shows it is up to the challenge of racing. I am sure an generic company can make a frame that looks similar, but will likely weigh a significant amount more. I am impressed with Pedal Force's RS2 that a friend has because the weight is low.

Our team shop is an Isaac shop. Our team bikes are Isaacs. The team has been racing them for at least 2 full seasons. They have all held up amazingly well.

There is one that is still hanging up in the back of the shop waiting to be sent back because of a hairline crack in one of the stays. Happened in a Cat 1/2 pileup. Team captain's bike. He's a 190+lb Cat1. high speed pileup and he was at the bottom of the pile.

Looks ridable, but they went over it with a fine tooth comb for a hour until they spotted a shift in the light reflection and notice the 'crack'.

All of the rest have endured a lot of wrecks, etc with no problems.

They are beautiful bikes. I hate having to stare at them during trainer classes. The head tubes are f'n HUGE! Nothing like that factory frame shown. Isaacs are "their own" bike. These are not just run of the mill frames with Isaac slapped on them. They are actually engineered/designed. They are unique....ish...

They are amazingly light and the tubes do look masive in a lot of places. Much more than any other production bike I have seen.

Lazyrider 12-18-08 07:54 PM

My friend snagged a RS2 in a group buy last year and I have to say I am utterly impressed with what he got for a $450 frameset. Really nice and in the rare white/black finish. I am sure the ride quality is different on the Isaac because of the HUGE tubes which may be good and bad thing as I don't race. We will see but I am 185 lbs so I don't think it will be an issue.



Originally Posted by Johannes (Post 8044451)
i ride an RS2 and like it. i like it better than that bottecchia or what that is, but i sure would trade it in for this isaac.


Lazyrider 12-18-08 07:59 PM

This is good to hear. I read good reviews and Bicycling did a long term update article on the Impulse in August and they raved about it. I took this article seriously because Isaac isn't a big (if at all) advertiser so I take what the writer said seriously.

I recognize Isaac and others make and design their own frames, but the fit and finish on the Isaac at the dropouts isn't any better than on my Mongoose. Plus the decals on my Mongoose are under the clearcoat which is a nice touch. The ride will be a lot different though with the huge diameter tubes. We'll see.


Originally Posted by Psimet2001 (Post 8044495)
Our team shop is an Isaac shop. Our team bikes are Isaacs. The team has been racing them for at least 2 full seasons. They have all held up amazingly well.

There is one that is still hanging up in the back of the shop waiting to be sent back because of a hairline crack in one of the stays. Happened in a Cat 1/2 pileup. Team captain's bike. He's a 190+lb Cat1. high speed pileup and he was at the bottom of the pile.

Looks ridable, but they went over it with a fine tooth comb for a hour until they spotted a shift in the light reflection and notice the 'crack'.

All of the rest have endured a lot of wrecks, etc with no problems.

They are beautiful bikes. I hate having to stare at them during trainer classes. The head tubes are f'n HUGE! Nothing like that factory frame shown. Isaacs are "their own" bike. These are just run of the mill frames with Isaac slapped on them. They are actually engineered/designed. They are unique....ish...

They are amazingly light and the tubes do look masive in a lot of places. Much more than any other production bike I have seen.


judkins1970 12-18-08 09:22 PM

:thumb:

Originally Posted by triplebutted (Post 8044310)
I'm getting me one of these. Looks like all the other carbons out there without the Nascar'esk stickers on it.

http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/b.../bike/511a.jpg

Sweet


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