who uses them? they seem to be lighter, cheaper, and more resistant to gunk/dirt then the X series road pedals.

is this true?

I'm not worried about walking around in them....

can they be mounted to a 3 hole shoe?

Chad

I had some (read: the bike they were on was stolen, a MTB), they were awesome! I only had problems with them clogging up in the stickiest of mud.

Can't mount the cleats on a 3hole shoe AFAIK

gotcha, I'm thinking of switching from Look Keo's to the speedplays x series or frogs.

guess I can't do the frogs as it would require new shoes.

although it'd be great to get new shoes as well (I have cheap shimanos) its just not in the budget.

Chad

I use frogs on my road bike and on our road tandem. They work great.

They're fine if you're not racing or riding competitively. I use them on the MTB on the road all the time. Too easy to slip out of compared to good road pedals. But for non-competitive riding they are fine, I love mine.

I see.

I've read your past threads on switching from speedplay's to the looks...I'm torn

I want to TRY the speedplays to see whats up, wonder if I can convince my LBS to let me.

I like my Looks sometimes I do have trouble clipping in the "first" time. at lights however, but other then that they are excellent.

Chad

I have never had a problem with my Light Action Speedplay pedals clogging up with dirt. But, if uou are looking for a MTB pedal, I think Frogs would be great choice. I have several friends that use Frogs with their road bike. One of them rides double centuries with Frogs.

I'd agree with this; I tried them for a while on my mountain bike but ended up using Crank Brothers Egg Beaters instead. I never got a confident feel that I was clipped-in and it was too easy to accidentally clip-out.

For my road bike, I love my X-1/X-2 pedals.

I use Frogs on my tourer, Speedplay X's on my dedicated road bike. frogs are easier (if that's possible) to clip in. I've never come unclipped when I didn't want to, but then I don't race. Either pedal is fine by me. Hard to go wrong.

+1 I tried Frogs and would pull out once or twice a week. Switched to Zeros.

I use Frogs on my road bike and touring bike. As Pcad stated, they are great if you aren't riding competively (or serious about it).

The 'accidently unclipping' thing has happened to me, but only when the cleats are worn.

Plus, you have to be more conscience of keeping your feet straight and not letting them turn out too much, or you'll unclip. Happened to me once or twice, but only when climbing.
I suggest, when mounting the cleat, to make sure that the front of the cleat is turned enough out so that when you move your heel toward the crankarm, there is only a slight movement before the stop (on the rear of the cleat) brings up against the stop on the pedal. This will help avoid accidently unclipping for those who have 'lazy feet'.

I use frogs on all my bikes and love 'em. Not as secure as LOOK, but a great all around pedal.

Hmmmm....gotta disagree about not using them for competitive riding. Just completed a season of cyclocross on them and loved them.

For road riding....I would agree. Not for serious road riding. Get a nice road pedal. I recommend Shimano, Look or Speedplay road systems.

Maybe my cleats are worn, but the Frogs seem too easy to unclip from for me. That happens out of the saddle when you're cranking in a road race or fast ride and you're friggin toast.

I found them hard to clip into all the way and would eject myself 3/5 times just riding around.

on a completely new pair

No, not the cleat - they are really easy to unclip from, but they work great for cyclocross....when you are usually trying to unclip. Road is the improper application of them.

Your experience is dead on.

I'd agree, Frogs are outstanding in the woods, but the very thing that makes them so good on the trail- ease of rapid disengagement - makes them potentially dicey on the road. Again, not for casual or solo cycling, but for higher intensity cycling situations more typical of racing or group rides.

I had them and found they released too many times and went back to shimano for MTB. Also tried them on the road and found they had too much float.

I've never had problems unclipping on the road. I'm guessing problems are a function of cleat adjustment and pedal stroke. Having said that, I wouldn't want to race in them even if I prefer them on all my bikes.

I have pulled out of my frogs on the highracer a few times when riding hard. Aside from destabilizing the ride, I wound up taking a huge amount of skin off my shins.

I've pulled out of them in the woods at the wrong times a few times, wouldn't want that to occur on the road, particularly with guys next to me going 30 mph.

TIME ATAC or Bebops if you want to use MTB clipless for road.

guess I'll just grab some new cleats for the looks and keep at it...I really don't have anything to complain about with them..

just is the "grass greener on the other side" mentality

Chad

My ten cents: Go ahead and buy a road specific pedal system, but I think it would be utter nonsense to suggest Speedplay Frog's (used in road/cross/mountain biking) will hold you back in typical road riding events (moderate/fast club rides, centuries, fund raising distance rides) that the vast majority of us do. I ride sometimes with zippy, drafting hammerheads with bling bling bikes and components specific for road racing, and my Frogs don't hold me back at all. Are you a category road racer entering regular events? Yes? Then buy a road-specific pedal system, otherwise get the pedal system that works best for you regardless of what others say you s-h-o-u-l-d buy.

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The 'accidently unclipping' thing has happened to me, but only when the cleats are worn.

Plus, you have to be more conscience of keeping your feet straight and not letting them turn out too much, or you'll unclip. Happened to me once or twice, but only when climbing.
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the unclipping you mention was caused by worn cleats woldn't that happen on nay clip?
Kinda strange about your other comment seeing as Frogs have something like 35 or 37 degrees of float (rotation BEFORE your shoe can be unclipped) as opposed to a standard SPD mtn bike pedal of maybe 5 degrees.
The only thing I will say about frogs is that when you are clipping in it is not a positive clip in. You place the shoe on the pedal correctly and it's in, no snap, no nothing, just in. I like to feel a snap in so I know I'm clipped in for sure. That said, they are great and I like the float.

I had frogs on a cx bike, didnt like them, never felt securely attached to the pedal. I wouldnt like for the road, but that's just me.