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Tour of Qatar rider dies.

Old 02-05-09, 03:41 AM
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Tour of Qatar rider dies.

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/articl...of-qatar-20279

Shame, feel for his family. My worst fear is outliving my kids.

I hope media speculation as to the cause of his death doesn't get ridiculous, hopefully they will be respectful.
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Old 02-05-09, 07:01 AM
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It's amazing that with all the medical and drug testing that nothing ever turns up with these young kids that pass away suddenly...

Makes you look at yourself and wonder....
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That's what scared the mess out of me when the cardiologist thought I had LVH.
I've heard young guys dieing on the spot from it. Just, "BAM!" Fall over on the floor. A girl I dated in the past. Her brother died at 19 from heart related issues. He was swimming, got out of the pool not feeling well, then collapsed right there in front of her. Died. Just fricken died. He was a great athlete too.

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That's what scared the mess out of me when the cardiologist thought I had LVH.
I've heard young guys dieing on the spot from it. Just, "BAM!" Fall over on the floor. A girl I dated in the past. Her brother died at 19 from heart related issues. He was swimming, got out of the pool not feeling well, then collapsed right there in front of her. Died. Just fricken died. He was a great athlete too.

Life is special. Use it wisely.
When I was in high school we were playing a game of pick-up basketball and one of my buddies (then the previous athlete of the year) took a break and sat down to rest for a second.

He was dead a minute later.

No warning. Nothing. Just dead.
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Interesting article on Slate a couple days ago, although I don't know whether it's relevant to this case. Maybe not, since he died in bed, rather than during the event.
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If I die while cycling at least ill be happy.
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This kid was found dead in his hotel room bed.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina View Post
When I was in high school we were playing a game of pick-up basketball and one of my buddies (then the previous athlete of the year) took a break and sat down to rest for a second.

He was dead a minute later.

No warning. Nothing. Just dead.
Cause?
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I grew up with a girl who had like 4 brothers and a billion cousins in town. Every one of them was a better jock than the last- soccer, swimming, etc. One of her cousins was one of the top milers in the state, and walking into the grocery store with his mom, just keeled over and passed away. He was 16 or 17. Undiagnosed (and possibly undiagnosable?) heart problem. Awful stuff.
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The condition where young people sometime pass away suddenly (i.e. Hank Gathers) is called IHSS - Idiopathic hypertrophic subaortic stenosis. I'm not sure if IHSS is the offical term anymore...but it was when I was in medschool. Briefly it is a thickening of the heart wall that likely has a strong genetic component. Google it. The signs for this are often subtle and often missed. Whether or not this rider had this condition or not...who knows? Sudden death in athletes is often an undiagnosed cardiac condition or drug use or both.
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The condition where young people sometime pass away suddenly (i.e. Hank Gathers) is called IHSS - Idiopathic hypertrophic subaortic stenosis. I'm not sure if IHSS is the offical term anymore...but it was when I was in medschool. Briefly it is a thickening of the heart wall that likely has a strong genetic component. Google it. The signs for this are often subtle and often missed. Whether or not this rider had this condition or not...who knows? Sudden death in athletes is often an undiagnosed cardiac condition or drug use or both.
The new term for IHSS is HOCM (or sometimes shortened to HCM) - Hypertrophic Obstructive Cardiomyopathy....I have only one patient with this, and his heart murmur was NOT subtle (before he had amazing new surgery to correct it).

I think a lot of these sudden cardiac death patients actually have a prolonged QT syndrome which can cause a fatal heart rhythm even though the heart is anatomically normal.
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Originally Posted by wfrogge View Post
If I die while cycling at least ill be happy.
No; you'll be dead.
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
The new term for IHSS is HOCM (or sometimes shortened to HCM) - Hypertrophic Obstructive Cardiomyopathy....I have only one patient with this, and his heart murmur was NOT subtle (before he had amazing new surgery to correct it).

I think a lot of these sudden cardiac death patients actually have a prolonged QT syndrome which can cause a fatal heart rhythm even though the heart is anatomically normal.
I have been close to three of these terrible events:

In high school; our cross town rivals star RB died at practice; when I was in college one of the my competitors died while warming up for SEC finals in the 400 and a former girlfriends son died at football practice. All of these were just "out of the blue".

Scary stuff.
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Random question here and completely off topic. Who did you race for in the SEC UtahWasatch?
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its not out of the blue, there must be a traitor out of the matrix unplugging these people without proper unloading.

just like the matrix
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This kind of thing is scary to me since I occasionally have bouts of noticeable arrhythmias for weeks. I have had EKGs, ECGs etc. and the doctors/cardiologists just kind of shrug and say they have no idea. I had it once so bad that I went to the emergency room and was hooked up to a heart monitor that didn't register what I thought were arrhythmias, but the pulse monitor on my finger did. The doctor was saying that it wasn't my heart, it was due to "muscle spasms." I have no idea what the heck it is, but if I feel my pulse when it's happening, I can definitely notice what feels like a skipped beat.
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No; you'll be dead.
Beat me to it.
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but the pulse monitor on my finger did. The doctor was saying that it wasn't my heart,
I would certainly trust a heart monitor over the pulse in your finger.
Anyway an ex-GF (Cardiac care nurse btw) occassionally had some of the symptoms you mention. (arrhythmia/skipped heart beat) It was the large quantity of caffeine/coffee that she drank each day during the 12hr shifts.

Once she cut back on the caffeine/coffee, the symptoms disappeared.

BTW she was an avid cyclist and put in over 150miles/wk.
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Happend to one of our male high school students a few years ago. Was heart related and post exercise also as he had played a pick up B ball game earlier and was of normal weight and buildd.
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Originally Posted by FreddyBoy View Post
I would certainly trust a heart monitor over the pulse in your finger.
Anyway an ex-GF (Cardiac care nurse btw) occassionally had some of the symptoms you mention. (arrhythmia/skipped heart beat) It was the large quantity of caffeine/coffee that she drank each day during the 12hr shifts.

Once she cut back on the caffeine/coffee, the symptoms disappeared.

BTW she was an avid cyclist and put in over 150miles/wk.
Well, it's weird that I would have an unreliable pulse that would not reliably mimic my heartbeat, isn't it? The thing is that I almost never ingest caffeine...couple cups a tea a week, maybe. I think it might be related to sleep, so I've been spending less time on the computer and more time sleeping. It seems to have at least lessened. It's the scariest feeling in the world though when it happens.
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Good grief. Is it the mid 90s again?
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What a waste.
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