S2 Ride Report
02-05-09 | 06:33 PM
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Oh sorry I didn't study the other thread. Regardless, I like the bike, but the cable routing is RIDICULOUS
There is NO WAY Cervelo designed the bike with that in mind. Not only is it distracting, but I think it could be a hazard if you get you hand caught up in it. The whole point of 7900 was to hide the cables not to make them more pronounced like some mutant insect. I would get new bars and put them under if that is what it takes. The guy on the other thread was right. Stop pretending it is ok and get it fixed
There is NO WAY Cervelo designed the bike with that in mind. Not only is it distracting, but I think it could be a hazard if you get you hand caught up in it. The whole point of 7900 was to hide the cables not to make them more pronounced like some mutant insect. I would get new bars and put them under if that is what it takes. The guy on the other thread was right. Stop pretending it is ok and get it fixed
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02-05-09 | 06:35 PM
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But you can't even spell hazard.
Everything is fine Lazybrain. Relax and you may live to be my age. Although if Darwin has anything to say about it, that may never happen. Your consternation does not concern me, I have too many endorphins in my system from my bicycle ride earlier.
Everything is fine Lazybrain. Relax and you may live to be my age. Although if Darwin has anything to say about it, that may never happen. Your consternation does not concern me, I have too many endorphins in my system from my bicycle ride earlier.
02-05-09 | 06:36 PM
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02-05-09 | 06:47 PM
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Typing my flight of ideas causes some mistakes now and again. Excuse me that I didn't proofread before I submitted post. You demand a lot of attention so here it is. Aside from you being a little annoying, be objective about it and tell me that routing looks "correct".
But you can't even spell hazard.
Everything is fine Lazybrain. Relax and you may live to be my age. Although if Darwin has anything to say about it, that may never happen. Your consternation does not concern me, I have too many endorphins in my system from my bicycle ride earlier.
Everything is fine Lazybrain. Relax and you may live to be my age. Although if Darwin has anything to say about it, that may never happen. Your consternation does not concern me, I have too many endorphins in my system from my bicycle ride earlier.
02-05-09 | 06:58 PM
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Nice bike Pcad. good for you, I read most of the other thread and really see no reason why the routing would be done that way.
If you prefer it over the less visible way, then that's a horse of a different color.
I got a new Tarmac SL but won't be taking it out until the weather gets a lot better, I did do 26 miles today tough, 10deg-pretty chilly but sunny.
If you prefer it over the less visible way, then that's a horse of a different color.
I got a new Tarmac SL but won't be taking it out until the weather gets a lot better, I did do 26 miles today tough, 10deg-pretty chilly but sunny.
02-05-09 | 08:49 PM
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Typing my flight of ideas causes some mistakes now and again. Excuse me that I didn't proofread before I submitted post. You demand a lot of attention so here it is. Aside from you being a little annoying, be objective about it and tell me that routing looks "correct".
02-05-09 | 08:51 PM
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Nice bike Pcad. good for you, I read most of the other thread and really see no reason why the routing would be done that way.
If you prefer it over the less visible way, then that's a horse of a different color.
I got a new Tarmac SL but won't be taking it out until the weather gets a lot better, I did do 26 miles today tough, 10deg-pretty chilly but sunny.
If you prefer it over the less visible way, then that's a horse of a different color.
I got a new Tarmac SL but won't be taking it out until the weather gets a lot better, I did do 26 miles today tough, 10deg-pretty chilly but sunny.
02-05-09 | 08:55 PM
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Pcad, maybe those Nokon cables are more "flexible" and allow for more options. I know they are expensive, but they come in small sections and maybe allow for more routing options. Here is a Cervelo with toptube routing.
I actually agree with you guys, I wanted the cables under the stem, they said no can do, I believed them, but it's easy to re-route if it's possible. Let me talk to Cervelo and see what they have to say. But in the meantime it really doesn't bother me. You know I was comparing my new bike with my Cdale, and the old D.A. 7800 cables flapping in front of the handlebars in the wind. The S2 cable routing does look considerably more aero. I'm sure Cervelo wind tunnel tested this and it saved .1 watts or something.
02-05-09 | 08:57 PM
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A really nice bike like this gives me motivation to starve.
If I get real skinny, that's when you have to worry about Uncle Pcad. You're all F'd. Except for gsteinb, Dr. W., KP, umd, and a few others, but the rest of you are totally F'd.
02-05-09 | 09:05 PM
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Man, Pat, it was friggin nasty out there today. Not so bad with the wind at your back, but I did have to grind into that headwind on a flat road (after I came out of the hilly route I take on windy days to mitigate my exposure to the prevailing winds on this route) for a few miles and that part of the ride was gnarly. 26 miles for me too. It's hard going longer; on days like today that takes two hours. I do a route with a bunch of steep hills on days like today just to keep my body temp up and the speeds lower.
How do you tolerate the descents after the climb? I agree about the time, anything more than 2 hours is too much for me as well. I'm like you-I ride for my mental well being more than for the training, I find it easier to withstand the cold if I use my ipod. I have been commuting to work since I lost my last job in October and I've found that I've actually enjoyed riding in some weather that would have definitely had me housebound at other times.
Now that I can ride all year, I didn't even get cabin fever this year.
BTW what gear were you wearing today to fend off the cold?
02-05-09 | 09:09 PM
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How do you tolerate the descents after the climb? I agree about the time, anything more than 2 hours is too much for me as well. I'm like you-I ride for my mental well being more than for the training, I find it easier to withstand the cold if I use my ipod. I have been commuting to work since I lost my last job in October and I've found that I've actually enjoyed riding in some weather that would have definitely had me housebound at other times.
Now that I can ride all year, I didn't even get cabin fever this year.
BTW what gear were you wearing today to fend off the cold?
Now that I can ride all year, I didn't even get cabin fever this year.
BTW what gear were you wearing today to fend off the cold?
02-05-09 | 09:13 PM
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I don't need more motivation to ride.
A really nice bike like this gives me motivation to starve.
If I get real skinny, that's when you have to worry about Uncle Pcad. You're all F'd. Except for gsteinb, Dr. W., KP, umd, and a few others, but the rest of you are totally F'd.
A really nice bike like this gives me motivation to starve.
If I get real skinny, that's when you have to worry about Uncle Pcad. You're all F'd. Except for gsteinb, Dr. W., KP, umd, and a few others, but the rest of you are totally F'd.
02-05-09 | 09:13 PM
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The bike is stiff, light, which I expected. The ride is quite comfortable, and that surprised me. Smooth even over rough chip/seal roads. Stiffer than the Six13, I really liked that. Great climber. Not bad in wicked crosswinds either. Climbs/descends great. D.A. 7900? Nice, but not too much different than 7800. I miss the gear indicator bubble that used to tell me whether I had one more cog to go in the back or not. Bike fits great, more of a drop to the bars (I think it's half a centimeter) but I'm sure I'll get use to that. Liked it today, a bit of a reach in the drops, but it was 15º, windy as hell and I was wearing a lotta layers.
The Williams 38c's were the right wheels to get for this bike. With those wheels and Conti GP 4000s the bike only weighs 16 lbs 5 oz. with cages and computer. Hard to tell about the performance (speed, aero) on a day like today when it's cold, windy and you're alone. But I was impressed with the bike ride, handling, fit and feel. I think this was the right choice for me. Just what I was hoping for.
And that's why I can't test ride bikes. I always have a different impression when I get them home. Don't ask me why. I go by general consensus, and if all the owners and magazines tend to love the bike, I put my faith in that. So far that is working.
The Williams 38c's were the right wheels to get for this bike. With those wheels and Conti GP 4000s the bike only weighs 16 lbs 5 oz. with cages and computer. Hard to tell about the performance (speed, aero) on a day like today when it's cold, windy and you're alone. But I was impressed with the bike ride, handling, fit and feel. I think this was the right choice for me. Just what I was hoping for.
And that's why I can't test ride bikes. I always have a different impression when I get them home. Don't ask me why. I go by general consensus, and if all the owners and magazines tend to love the bike, I put my faith in that. So far that is working.
Glad to hear you like it, god knows when you drop a load of cash on a bike you want to love it. When I test rode the Soloist Team I didn't encounter the crosswind issues that I read some people complaining about, it was a little more noticable than my current bike but certainly nothing to dislike. The one thing I wasn't fond of was the rattling noise from the internal cables. I was already used to a pretty aggressive geometry from my Bianchi so that wasn't a big deal, but the Soloist was a nice zippy ride. The warmer weather should be here soon enough, and I can't wait for all of the salt and grit to be washed away already.
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02-05-09 | 09:15 PM
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Say what you will about the new cable routing system's aesthetics, but it makes no noise at all. I think it was to eliminate noise and to get more aero. That they covered. The aesthetics? People will get used to it.
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02-05-09 | 09:24 PM
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I'll be riding my bicycle. That is what they are for, which may be a news flash for you.
02-05-09 | 09:25 PM
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The aesthetics didn't bug me as much as the rattling, and again it wasn't bad but noticable. Keep in mind it was the aluminum version, not the high end carbon model you have.
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02-05-09 | 09:53 PM
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Never had a problem on my Felt which had internal cabling.
02-05-09 | 10:05 PM
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02-05-09 | 10:21 PM
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I walked into my local LBS today to buy a simple inner tube and ended up looking at new road bike purchase options. The deals are incredible. I'm gonna test ride a handful next week, and it's highly likely I'll be buying a new Specialized, Giant or Blue CF frame bike. I blame you Pcad. Damn you!
02-05-09 | 11:36 PM
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