But what happened to the "multiple positives"?

Or did you miss that finer detail somewhere along the line of your reckless and irresponsible accusations?

I'm almost convinced that ASO, AFLD and L'equipe are all the same company.

Sounds like the UCI is on Armstrong's side. And the tester didn't have instructions to keep watch over Armstrong the entire time. That's only the case in certain circumstances, and he wasn't given those instructions this time. Therefore, Armstrong asked, the tester agreed, game over.

The fact that they leaked it shows something about the AFLD.

if you can prove that, you win the internet.

FFS. If you are too farkin lazy to look it up don't shoot the messenger.

Edit. Here. Happy now?. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...r07/apr23news3

ASO and l'Equipe were the same company at some stage. They may even still have the same parent company

I think Floyd's book talked about a procedure requiring dropping of the pants and raising of the shirt so the tester can verify there are no appliances or storage devices involved in the sample production. I don't know about the brown eye wink.

There's always one. :rolleyes:

I wonder what the wage is for that job. Even more curious is the psychology of those who do it. Would help to have a sense of humor. Then again, would you want a sample taker telling jokes in an attempt to distract both of you you from the abnormality of the situation? "Knock knock" "Who's there?" "Interrupting cow" "Interrupti..." "Mooo"

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The French don't want him racing the TdF. They couldn't get him with a positive so they'll try to get him with a technicality. Even if it's a made up technicality. Heck, it's their race let them do what they want.

Since the ASO, AFLD and L'equipe are in collusion over this I think it's proper to refer to them as "The French".

Amazing that there is an abundance of Frenchmen willing to work as a piss-collector.

This one is always a gem. Let's see:

The Tour in:
1996 - Mr. 60% Bjarne Riis wins doped
1997 - Telekom doped as a team
1998 - Festina affair, Pantani wins probably doped since he was busted in the next Giro
1999-2005 - no proven cases involving the Tour winner
2006 - Floyd busted
2007 - Rasmussen yanked for whereabouts form; Vinokourov busted
2008 - Saunier Duval-Scott caught with dope


yeah, things were just great when Lance left.

1) It has nothing to do with me being lazy since I'm not the one making accusations. The onus is on you, since you're the one making the claim he had "multiple positives".
2) I will "shoot the messenger" when one claims gossip to be fact. That would be like me accusing you of taking steroids but you're the one who has to prove me wrong.
3) Did you read the article that you're using as a source? The whole story is based upon another newspaper (L'Equipe) article.

My point is, if you're going to make claims, better be ready to back it up with credible and direct sources. Otherwise, you're spreading gossip, which is completely irresponsible, and you should expect some backlash. Rather than resort to name calling and acting like I took your favorite toy, you could have easily posted court documents or named sources with direct involvement in the investigation.

If that were the case and it did prove he had "multiple positives", I would have gladly conceeded your point.

It is a FACT that he had multiple positives. It isn't an accusation. How can you deny that? Where is your proof that there were not multiple positives? Man, disinformation on these pages is going haywire.

Updated: April 10, 2009, 3:57 PM EST

Armstrong says French may ban him from Tour
Associated Press

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - Lance Armstrong says he thinks French doping officials may ban him from this year's Tour de France over a report that he violated protocols during a recent drug test.

In a video statement released on his Web site, Armstrong said there's a "very high likelihood" he won't be allowed to race for an eighth Tour de France title.
The French drug testing agency, known as AFLD, has said it could punish Armstrong for not remaining in sight of the official collecting samples of the cyclist's hair, urine and blood on March 17. Armstrong says he went inside his house to take a shower while his assistants checked the representative's credentials. Armstrong says the tests came back negative.

If Tour officials use this as a premise to ban Armstrong from the Tdf, Americans should boycott the TV broadcast, Tour de France tourism and Tour merchandise in protest. That's preposterous, particularly considering the samples all tested negative. Le Aholes.

So, a clean LA slapped in the face of all doped riders, or doped LA managed to become the best cheater in sport. Either way, it's an accomplishment.

please don't say French fries?!?

I prefer Onion Rings.

Fries? Yes! and a burger too please!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3529/...08be67495c.jpg

:applause:

BTW and back on subject, Lance proclaiming this as "showergate" is awesome.

Well played, sir.

Eff the Frenchies, bunch of sore losers.

frites are Belgian anyway.

Actually the tester felt slighted because he wanted to play ring toss
on Lance's unit and he said no.

ANYBODY with 2 cents worth of common sense would NOT say "I'm with the French". You are, are you? Well good, stay with them, better you being there, than here. See ya, and don't let the door smack you in the ass on the way out!:saweeet:

This is what you Americans do not understand as the Tour du France only happened for most of you when Lance started winning. For us French the tour was there before Lance and will be there after Lance we do not care how many people watch from outside of France as this is a French thing. Most French people do not like Lance and it is not because he won so many times but the way he wins it's to American there is no sprit in Lance he is a robot and the tour is about more than winning as I said it's a French thing. So the economics are not important to us and many feel having Lance is just that big money wins not at all the sprit of the thing.

:roflmao2:

wow, you almost had me. That's hilarious. Good story.

My Jr. High French tells me it should be "Les Aholes", since it's plural.

And concerning Barese Riders comment "Im with the French, Lance brings back bad old memories to them and deserves to be treated under a cloud of suspicion."

I can see how that might apply to Jan Ullrich, being German and all that. Let's see...Lance the American beat them at their treasured national sport...The German's beat their treasured nation.

Not to mention that we saved them in multiple wars.

Then again, they financed part of the Revolutionary war for us, so maybe it's even.

How about just letting us race?

>This is what you Americans do not understand<

pedalhard - are you French, Canadian, or French Canadian. If it's the last two, you're also an American, as are those from the U.S. and Mexico.