From that web link....
A fake penis? So does that mean the tester has to tug on it to make sure it is real?

You made an accusation (which was based upon reports, "anonymous sources", and opinion pieces) and backed it up with a Wiki entry. Tell you what, give me your name and about an hour. I'll gladly make a wiki entry about you, including links that have absolutely nothing to do with my entry and blog-like reporting.

Yet somehow I'm either a moron or being obtuse?

I READ IT ON THE INTERNETZ, SO IT MUST BE TRUE!1!!

:thumb:

Actually that is the under-pin-ing to the tester's contempt with Lance and how this whole debacle started. The tester wanted to hold it to make sure it was real but Lance said no and would only let him watch. The tester suspected something was up because Lance's squirtgun was said to be a bit larger than its true size which is reported to be small from sitting on for so many years.

The subject is Landis and the 'accusations' as you call them stand up.

The facts of the matter are that Landis had artificial testosterone in his samples, had his Tour win stripped from him, copped a two year ban, lost all his appeals and had to pay the USADA a stack of money for their legal fees. Did you miss those finer details somewhere along the line?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/othe...ng/7993738.stm

UCI chimes in on the Armstrong-AFLD debacle.

But what happened to the "multiple positives"?

Or did you miss that finer detail somewhere along the line of your reckless and irresponsible accusations?

I'm almost convinced that ASO, AFLD and L'equipe are all the same company.

Sounds like the UCI is on Armstrong's side. And the tester didn't have instructions to keep watch over Armstrong the entire time. That's only the case in certain circumstances, and he wasn't given those instructions this time. Therefore, Armstrong asked, the tester agreed, game over.

The fact that they leaked it shows something about the AFLD.

if you can prove that, you win the internet.

FFS. If you are too farkin lazy to look it up don't shoot the messenger.

Edit. Here. Happy now?. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...r07/apr23news3

ASO and l'Equipe were the same company at some stage. They may even still have the same parent company

I think Floyd's book talked about a procedure requiring dropping of the pants and raising of the shirt so the tester can verify there are no appliances or storage devices involved in the sample production. I don't know about the brown eye wink.

There's always one. :rolleyes:

I wonder what the wage is for that job. Even more curious is the psychology of those who do it. Would help to have a sense of humor. Then again, would you want a sample taker telling jokes in an attempt to distract both of you you from the abnormality of the situation? "Knock knock" "Who's there?" "Interrupting cow" "Interrupti..." "Mooo"

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The French don't want him racing the TdF. They couldn't get him with a positive so they'll try to get him with a technicality. Even if it's a made up technicality. Heck, it's their race let them do what they want.

Since the ASO, AFLD and L'equipe are in collusion over this I think it's proper to refer to them as "The French".

Amazing that there is an abundance of Frenchmen willing to work as a piss-collector.

This one is always a gem. Let's see:

The Tour in:
1996 - Mr. 60% Bjarne Riis wins doped
1997 - Telekom doped as a team
1998 - Festina affair, Pantani wins probably doped since he was busted in the next Giro
1999-2005 - no proven cases involving the Tour winner
2006 - Floyd busted
2007 - Rasmussen yanked for whereabouts form; Vinokourov busted
2008 - Saunier Duval-Scott caught with dope


yeah, things were just great when Lance left.

1) It has nothing to do with me being lazy since I'm not the one making accusations. The onus is on you, since you're the one making the claim he had "multiple positives".
2) I will "shoot the messenger" when one claims gossip to be fact. That would be like me accusing you of taking steroids but you're the one who has to prove me wrong.
3) Did you read the article that you're using as a source? The whole story is based upon another newspaper (L'Equipe) article.

My point is, if you're going to make claims, better be ready to back it up with credible and direct sources. Otherwise, you're spreading gossip, which is completely irresponsible, and you should expect some backlash. Rather than resort to name calling and acting like I took your favorite toy, you could have easily posted court documents or named sources with direct involvement in the investigation.

If that were the case and it did prove he had "multiple positives", I would have gladly conceeded your point.

It is a FACT that he had multiple positives. It isn't an accusation. How can you deny that? Where is your proof that there were not multiple positives? Man, disinformation on these pages is going haywire.

Updated: April 10, 2009, 3:57 PM EST

Armstrong says French may ban him from Tour
Associated Press

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - Lance Armstrong says he thinks French doping officials may ban him from this year's Tour de France over a report that he violated protocols during a recent drug test.

In a video statement released on his Web site, Armstrong said there's a "very high likelihood" he won't be allowed to race for an eighth Tour de France title.
The French drug testing agency, known as AFLD, has said it could punish Armstrong for not remaining in sight of the official collecting samples of the cyclist's hair, urine and blood on March 17. Armstrong says he went inside his house to take a shower while his assistants checked the representative's credentials. Armstrong says the tests came back negative.

If Tour officials use this as a premise to ban Armstrong from the Tdf, Americans should boycott the TV broadcast, Tour de France tourism and Tour merchandise in protest. That's preposterous, particularly considering the samples all tested negative. Le Aholes.

So, a clean LA slapped in the face of all doped riders, or doped LA managed to become the best cheater in sport. Either way, it's an accomplishment.

please don't say French fries?!?

I prefer Onion Rings.