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Old 05-25-04 | 08:53 PM
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Well This Just Sucks :(

I just found out today that the bike I bought (last Monday) will not be here until June 1st. The guy I bought it from didn't get the reserve price on eBay so I offered him $1,300.00 and he agreed. Well, he was never fast on emailing me back but was a reputable person (I checked with a few others that bought from him before). I never discussed shipping options because he was covering it. I paid for the bike (Monday) and he says after that he can't ship until Friday because he's out of town (I think I would have mentioned it to a potential buyer). Between Monday and Friday, I asked 4 times if he could get it to me by the following Monday (yesterday) because of my birthday. He never gave me a direct answer but I figured he had an idea that I wanted to get it quicker. I also offered to compensate him.

Well, to make a long story short. he told me that it should be here tomorrow and he JUST got me the tracking # today. When I checked it, JUNE 1ST was the scheduled delivery date. UPS Ground was the last method I wanted it shipped. The postal service is quicker.

Also, the scanned item says that it's 4.80lbs? It better be the bike coming. I've already thought about him skimming on shipping to save costs. Anybody else run into weird shipping weights when using UPS Ground? Do they ever show up early? It's coming from Nevada to NYC and was shipped on the 21st. It left Nevada on the 21st and is in transit (that's the last scan). I hate UPS Ground!

Boy am I heated. I've been looking forward to riding this for 2 weeks now.
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Old 05-25-04 | 08:55 PM
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Not to fuel the fire, but a shipping weight of 4.8 punds sounds like a stripped frame.
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Old 05-25-04 | 09:03 PM
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Not to fuel the fire, but a shipping weight of 4.8 punds sounds like a stripped frame.
Oops, he sent two tracking #'s. Still, it's all June 1st.
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Old 05-25-04 | 09:06 PM
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After Memorial Day???? Rats... Hang in there...better days are com'n.
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Old 05-25-04 | 09:09 PM
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I had a bike shipped from Newport News Va via UPS to Toronto. Arrived in 3 days. Weight on the invoice said 41lbs. About 16 pounds off. UPS also shipped it back to the U.S. as I wasn't home the 3 times they (BS) said they came by so it took three weeks in actuality.

Guess I'm not helping much so I''ll go now.
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Old 05-25-04 | 09:11 PM
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I had a bike shipped from Newport News Va via UPS to Toronto. Arrived in 3 days. Weight on the invoice said 41lbs. About 16 pounds off. UPS also shipped it back to the U.S. as I wasn't home the 3 times they (BS) said they came by so it took three weeks in actuality.

Guess I'm not helping much so I''ll go now.
no that's ok. $**t happens.

Was it sent UPS Ground?
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Old 05-25-04 | 09:13 PM
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ups ground is the worst. at least if it's something you really want. you should give him negative feedback on his ebay account.
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Old 05-25-04 | 09:18 PM
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no that's ok. $**t happens.

Was it sent UPS Ground?
If I said no would it make you feel any better?

Sorry, UPS ground. I have stuff from momovelo coming by them soon. Hope it arrives before Aug when I move overseas. Oh man to have them track me to India, I'd never see the parts.
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If it was shiped UPS ground, the tracking number won't show where it's at until it get scanned next. Usually once it gets offloaded in the destination city.

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Old 05-25-04 | 09:43 PM
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If it was shiiped UPS ground, the tracking number won't show where it's at until it get scanned next. Usually once it gets offloaded in the destination city.
Oh yeah, that's right. I hate this guy right now.
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Old 05-25-04 | 09:44 PM
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If I said no would it make you feel any better?
Nope.
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Oh yeah, figure 350 miles per day for UPS.
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Old 05-25-04 | 10:04 PM
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I work in shipping. Nevada to NYC via UPS ground is probably 4 days. I don't know for sure since I don't have a zone map in front of me.

You're probably looking at the 27th.
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Originally Posted by Laggard
I work in shipping. Nevada to NYC via UPS ground is probably 4 days. I don't know for sure since I don't have a zone map in front of me.

You're probably looking at the 27th.
I worked in shipping too, and the rule of thumb was always 350 miles per day for UPS.

A package from California to NY took 8 days UPS ground. That was 2 weeks ago.
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Old 05-25-04 | 10:18 PM
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june first is like, next week. chillll.... i have known UPS ground to come usually one day early. and they generally scan each package at every hub. last year, i watched my forks go from LA, to lincoln, to chicao, to columbus, to boston/framingham over the week it took to get them...it was kida fun. it's not the guy's fault that UPS is slow.
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Old 05-25-04 | 11:13 PM
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I went through this when I bought my last frame and it does suck. But as long as it arrives and is everything you expect and hope, this delay will be forgotten soon enough.

Anticipation can be a good thing.

Did you get the Santa Cruz? - Any pics?

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I've gotten a package earlier than the delivery date, can't remember if it was by 1 or 2 days.
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Old 05-25-04 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 55/Rad
I went through this when I bought my last frame and it does suck. But as long as it arrives and is everything you expect and hope, this delay will be forgotten soon enough.

Anticipation can be a good thing.

Did you get the Santa Cruz? - Any pics?

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The Santa Cruz is the bike that's on it's way. He sent it UPS Ground when I specifically asked for him not to. I also offered some more money. He did it anyway and paid it no mind... What a jerk.

I can only hope it will get here Friday. If not, definitely Tuesday. UPS Ground has to be the worst service available.
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Old 05-26-04 | 07:09 AM
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I worked in shipping too, and the rule of thumb was always 350 miles per day for UPS.

A package from California to NY took 8 days UPS ground. That was 2 weeks ago.
UPS guarantees that transit time for a package shipped from Vegas to NYC will be 5 days.

Call 'em yourself. We ship a couple thousand packages monthly and 95% of the time UPS delivers the package on day they say they will.

Didn't they give you a zone chart showing ground delivery times? I've never heard this 350 miles a day crap.
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Old 05-26-04 | 07:50 AM
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I agree with the "Chill" comment. If this is the worst thing that happens to you this month, it's been a pretty good month...
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I've found UPS to be excellent, but then again I know my driver and I have everything shipped to my office. In my experience, FexEx Ground is terrible, but that is a conversation for another thread.

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Old 05-26-04 | 09:39 AM
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I agree with the "Chill" comment. If this is the worst thing that happens to you this month, it's been a pretty good month...
Yeah, I know. It's more the point though. This guy is just not even close to giving a crap about the entire transaction. He didn't get what he wanted for it and I can't leave him bad feedback. On top of it, I made plans to ride all this weekend.

When I sell something on or off eBay, I am in constant contact because that is what I would want. Especially if someone sent me an unsecured $1,300.oo via Paypal. I want them to know that their money is secure. I didn't hear from him for 3 days!

And I'm fine with UPS. They are almost 100% on time all the time. I just don't like the UPS Ground service itself. I think 3-day select is the best bang for the buck.

All in all, it was just a bad seller/buyer transaction. He still hasn't responded as usual and I'll be surprised if I ever hear from him. He shouldn't try to sell anything on eBay again because I'll give my personal feedback. But when the bike gets here, it gets here.
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Old 05-26-04 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Laggard
Didn't they give you a zone chart showing ground delivery times? I've never heard this 350 miles a day crap.
It said 8 days from Sparks, NV to Manhattan, NY.

Here's one of the tracking #'s 1Z V9V 987 03 2150 409 8
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Old 05-26-04 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Laggard
UPS guarantees that transit time for a package shipped from Vegas to NYC will be 5 days.

Call 'em yourself. We ship a couple thousand packages monthly and 95% of the time UPS delivers the package on day they say they will.

Didn't they give you a zone chart showing ground delivery times? I've never heard this 350 miles a day crap.
From Sparks Neveda to Manhattan is 2700 miles. The pickup date was May 21 and the scheduled delivery date is June 1. That is 11 calender days (10 without the holiday) and 7 business days. If you use the "350 miles per day" figure that UPS gave me, it works out to 7.7 days, which is close enough for most purposes.
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Old 05-26-04 | 11:01 AM
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There ya go. I forgot the weekend and holiday. You don't count the day it was picked up. 5 days is the 24th through the 28th. They probably won't deliver on the weekend and the 31st is a holiday, so it will be dropped off on the 1st. So yeah, 5 business days.

As someone said, the price difference between Ground and 3 Day isn't that great.
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