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Originally Posted by bigfred
(Post 8876764)
And with this, your review is already derailed. Squishiness in tape is akin to gel saddles. It prevents you from being able to adjust where your pressure points are and ultimately can lead to numb hands soon than nice firm wrap.
Originally Posted by bigfred
(Post 8876764)
You start by slagging off what is very possibly the "gold standard" by which all other tapes can be measured. This tape has been around longer than any other than woven cotton for a reason. It probably graces the bars of more bikes than any other single tape. The fact that plenty of shop mechanics, that we malign in so many other ways, manage to wrap it just fine gives us insight into your mechanical aptitude. Don't knock the tap for your lack of skill and experience. There are tapes that may excel at a particular attribute, but, for all around road use Cinelli Cork is an excellent combination of most characteristics. It is, in fact, available in solid colors if you wish as well as micro and macro splashes to match just about any outrageous color scheme youo want.
To each their own. There are some gel inserts you can hide under your tape to get more squishiness than any of the off the shelf tapes allow. I think you should probably take a look at them. If you actually read my review, you would see that I mention gel pads and how with good bar tape they're not needed. Sadly, like most negative reviewers, you read a few sentences you disagree with and then skip straight to the criticism. |
Originally Posted by bigfred
(Post 8877793)
But, the guy labels this the "Great Tape Review", starts with the falacy that padding and cushioning equate with good and then, puts the long standing default choice at the bottom of his list.
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I bought planet bike tape for $12 bucks. I like it, no hols, gelley surface, and It doesn't absorb water, but when wet makes the surface tacky.
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Thanks for the backup grolby, but you still owe me for all those rides to plainville (by all those I mean two).
There is in fact a limit to my taste for squishiness, but there is no limit to the amount of people who take me too seriously and are way too opinionated. |
Originally Posted by Hocam
(Post 8876267)
... My god, it's full of stars...
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Originally Posted by Hocam
(Post 8877544)
You're just pissy because your roads are burning.
http://www.photoscene.com/kimandsteve/images/6154.jpg |
^^^^ that would be the opposite of comforting. Damn. Much luck sir.
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21
(Post 8876521)
Rav-X Cork 8/10
I got it for a steal on EP with some other Rev-X stuff (highly under-rated company, IMO. Their MTB grips that are wrapped in bar tape and lock on are the best thing since sliced bread) Squishiness 7/10- I'm not a fan of squishiness, but this is just an interim tape until I get some Fizik again. Even though I'm not a fan of the padding, it is comfy nonetheless. The tape is also very soft, and not super-grippy. Wrapability 10/10- VERY easy to wrap, I stretched it SUPER thin and it just went with the flow. Probably the best I've tried Appearance 7/10- Again, I like the looks and feel of thin bar tape (like cotton or Fizik), so the bulging look of it isn't super appealing, but it's great tape. I've got it in black, so I'm not sure about cleanability, but I'm sure it sucks for light colors. Fizik Microtex Tape 9.5/10 Low squishability, easy cleanability, great looks, great grip, multiple colors. The only problem is that it's a PITA to re-wrap, but that is easy overlooked because I don't need to replace it unless I crash or I've worn it down to the grey. The white I've used cleans GREAT. Fizik Soft Touch Tape 9/10 Squishiness 3/10- Again, my personal preference. Less is more. The grip is there more so than the regular Microtex, which is great for me. Wrapability 9/10- Again, I never need to rewrap. Putting it on is easy, it doesn't tear. Appearance 10/10- Looks great, I only had it in black, but I've heard that the white and grey are impossible to clean. I love the perforations. Stella Azurra 0/10 I hate this stuff. It chunks off when you try to removit it. I had to take a flat-blade razor and goof-off to my bars. The stuff is pathetic, and it ripped when I was installing it. As bad as Hocam thinks Cinelli is, Stella Azurra is worse. I really like Fizik Microtex once it's on but man it requires patience to do it properly, well worth it in the end though. I'm not a fan of squishiness so the Cinelli cork that's on my bike will be going away very soon though I might give it a good run before doing so. Shame about the Stella Azurra because I wanted to try it out but keep reading the same complaints from those who used it on their bars. |
You people are high on crack.
Regarding Cinelli Tape: You give it a 2/10 on squish and then you proceed to give Fizik tape some of the highest ratings. FAIL. Fizik tape is quite possibly the least squishy tape on the market next to cloth and binnoto. If you're ripping Cinelli tape, learn to wrap your handlebars. The stuff is great. Fizik tape is also the worst listed because if you ever need to remove it from your bars, you are left with an almost impossibly to remove film as it seems the adhesive chemically bonds to the bars, leaving a mess of resin and ripped tape. Specialized Roubaix tape: Your fredness is flapping in the wind. This tape should be reserved for 1. People racing Paris-Roubaix 2. People with an injury that need some vibration dampening. 3. The elderly |
Brian, you are on crack. The OP did not review the fizik tape, so the low opinion of cinelli and high opinion of fizik are from different individuals.
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I've never had a problem removing and rewrapping fizik tape.
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you need squishyness in bar tape like you need springs on your saddle
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Originally Posted by mugatu
(Post 8878798)
you need squishyness in bar tape like you need springs on your saddle
I know where to get squishy bar tape . . . where do I get those saddle springs? |
You keep ranting about the little specks, but those little specks are bits of cork.
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I have Deda tape on all my bikes and love it. Don't yell at me now, please. ;)
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man up, no tape is the wave of the future....:thumb::p:lol:
seriously, me likes the what ever bar-tape is on sale type. I roll full-fingered PI gloves all year long. I guess you can say it's a habit carried over from my BMX racing days in SoCal. as of late it has been the cheap cork from performance and rav-x from friends LBS. |
Originally Posted by roadiejorge
(Post 8878540)
I really like Fizik Microtex once it's on but man it requires patience to do it properly,
Originally Posted by umd
(Post 8878702)
I've never had a problem removing and rewrapping fizik tape.
Scary view from your house :eek: |
squishy sucks
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Originally Posted by bumperm
(Post 8878839)
Hey, thanks for the tip!!
I know where to get squishy bar tape . . . where do I get those saddle springs? http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/173...low-Saddle.htm |
The three parts of my body that touch the bikes are all from Specialized:
Bar tape: S-Wrap Saddle: some stock saddle that came on my Allez Shoes: BG Comp Road + BG Sport MTB (you know, for commuting). Next time I'll look out for that Roubaix Wrap. Thanks, and good review. |
I will throw out a vote for SRAM super cork bar tape. It has a firm feeling to it while being of a nice thickness. The ridges it creates make for a very secure grip, an almost pistol grip like effect in the drops. It has SRAM written all over it of course, which I think looks good. Also comes with really nice end plugs
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Cinelli Cork Gel. I used to use Cinelli Cork exclusively but the glue would grip way to well and be a huge pain to remove the tape. The gel is only a slight bit thicker and has no glue. I now run cinelli cork gel all the time.
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Originally Posted by bigfred
(Post 8876764)
And with this, your review is already derailed. Squishiness in tape is akin to gel saddles. It prevents you from being able to adjust where your pressure points are and ultimately can lead to numb hands soon than nice firm wrap.
You start by slagging off what is very possibly the "gold standard" by which all other tapes can be measured. This tape has been around longer than any other than woven cotton for a reason. It probably graces the bars of more bikes than any other single tape. The fact that plenty of shop mechanics, that we malign in so many other ways, manage to wrap it just fine gives us insight into your mechanical aptitude. Don't knock the tap for your lack of skill and experience. There are tapes that may excel at a particular attribute, but, for all around road use Cinelli Cork is an excellent combination of most characteristics. It is, in fact, available in solid colors if you wish as well as micro and macro splashes to match just about any outrageous color scheme youo want. To each their own. There are some gel inserts you can hide under your tape to get more squishiness than any of the off the shelf tapes allow. I think you should probably take a look at them. It's his review, he can use whatever criteria he chooses so I don't understand the strong objection. I don't like tape that's too thick because I have no issue with hand numbness, if the OP is mechanically inept then so be it since there are others who are as well and will find that information useful. I have Cinelli Cork on my bike now because it came with it, do I like it? Not really so when it is done I will replace it with something else with no concern about it being the "gold standard" or what every pro on the planet uses; on my bike what makes me comfortable is what matters. |
Originally Posted by zonatandem
(Post 8876892)
Cotton bar tape is just fine . . .
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I have Benotto tape on both of my road bikes and on my commuter. I also like gloves with no or minimal padding. Squishy bars are the total suck.
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