Fit help, please(with pictures)
#26
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hmmm,
just looked at those pics again I see a lot of seat post. How much saddle to bar drop is that? I'm gonna guess the reason he has his seat all the way forward is due to the amount of bar drop which is adding a lot to his overall reach. Unless the anti can get used to that much drop he might have a hard time getting this frame to work.
just looked at those pics again I see a lot of seat post. How much saddle to bar drop is that? I'm gonna guess the reason he has his seat all the way forward is due to the amount of bar drop which is adding a lot to his overall reach. Unless the anti can get used to that much drop he might have a hard time getting this frame to work.
and yes, it is very possible that this isn't my true riding position as I've been out of commission for a couple months(finals, projects, and family issues), so I'm going to try getting some better pictures up this evening.
ALSO: my front wheel was on a book to raise the front up with the elevated rear.
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I know nothing.... however, flatten your back and quit hunching over. This will also push your torso forward and down a bit then you can relax your arms. Then new pictures and we will all repeat opinions.
Edit after rereading OP: You were fit to your previous bike? The shop that did the fit should have those dimensions. Just apply them to your new bike.
Edit after rereading OP: You were fit to your previous bike? The shop that did the fit should have those dimensions. Just apply them to your new bike.
#30
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Your back looks messed up, your saddle is WAYYY far forward. Maybe lower saddle and push it back some.
Have someone take good measurements of your body and try the competitive cyclist fit calculator.
Something looks horribly horribly wrong.
Have someone take good measurements of your body and try the competitive cyclist fit calculator.
Something looks horribly horribly wrong.
#31
I'll be watching for updated pictures of your actual riding posture, but other than the fact that the seat seems a bit high and angled forward, I don't see anything obvious about this fit that couldn't be fixed simply by flattening your back and relaxing your arms. Your arm, shoulder, wrist, neck pain could could all be caused by a nose-down seat angle. Bad news.
I think I'd look equally as awkward if I put myself in that posture on my bike, and my fit is great.
There is a fair bit of seat--> bar drop, but you can always flip your stem up instead of having it flat. Comfort > Looks.
Just realize that the discomfort is simply an indication that something is wrong, not necessarily an indication that something is wrong with the bike's setup, it could be the bad habits regarding posture, balance, relaxation etc..
Good luck, and I'll peek back in when you get new pictures up.
-Jeremy
I think I'd look equally as awkward if I put myself in that posture on my bike, and my fit is great.
There is a fair bit of seat--> bar drop, but you can always flip your stem up instead of having it flat. Comfort > Looks.
Just realize that the discomfort is simply an indication that something is wrong, not necessarily an indication that something is wrong with the bike's setup, it could be the bad habits regarding posture, balance, relaxation etc..
Good luck, and I'll peek back in when you get new pictures up.
-Jeremy
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Tough to tell from the photos, but your saddle looks too far forward to me. I'd start with pushing the saddle back and lowering it. Next, I'd consider flipping the stem up.
Really need better photos without your head ducked like that which makes everything look weird. Also, have you tried rolling your hips forward instead of sitting so flat on the saddle? That would relieve some of your back pain, but you may have to adjust the angle of your saddle for crotch comfort.
Really need better photos without your head ducked like that which makes everything look weird. Also, have you tried rolling your hips forward instead of sitting so flat on the saddle? That would relieve some of your back pain, but you may have to adjust the angle of your saddle for crotch comfort.
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bike is too small...you have a ton of seat post showing and you could probably stand to go up a tiny bit more for a little more leg extension. Otherwise the reach looks fine. You probably could get away with a 59 or 60cm and have less seatpost showing. And a less aggressive saddle to bar drop. However...if you are comfortable then you can make this bike work.
#39
move seat back to the center of the rails. You are to far forward. Do that and take some more pics. If needed you may need to swap out the stem. Looks like 100mm on there now. Maybe a 110mm or 120mm. The bike is not to small. You can get it to work for you.
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Dscott makes a good point that we seem to miss a lot on these threads. The primary driver of changes to your setup should be comfort and efficiency\power and not neccessarily how you look to us via pics. Back pains can be attributed to too much reach and or too much drop and sometimes neck and shoulders to bars that are too narrow. If your back pain is due to too much drop then you will need to lessen it. Some people can ride 100 miles with 10 cm + cm of drop and others max out at under 5cm. If you want to obtain optimal fit then you need to figure out your optimal reach and max bar drop. Maybe if you just ride more you can get comfortable with this pretty aggressive setup, or maybe not. That bar drop is pretty much a function of head tube length and seat height that's why long legged riders need to pay close attention to head tube length when picking frames.
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I would agree on the seat father back suggestions, perhaps even lower it a tad also when you move it back, though a pedal forward and level photo would be needed to see for sure. Also try flipping your stem up for awhile. That bike will probably fit you with adjustments.
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Dscott makes a good point that we seem to miss a lot on these threads. The primary driver of changes to your setup should be comfort and efficiency\power and not neccessarily how you look to us via pics. Back pains can be attributed to too much reach and or too much drop and sometimes neck and shoulders to bars that are too narrow. If your back pain is due to too much drop then you will need to lessen it. Some people can ride 100 miles with 10 cm + cm of drop and others max out at under 5cm. If you want to obtain optimal fit then you need to figure out your optimal reach and max bar drop. Maybe if you just ride more you can get comfortable with this pretty aggressive setup, or maybe not. That bar drop is pretty much a function of head tube length and seat height that's why long legged riders need to pay close attention to head tube length when picking frames.
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so moving the seat to a more centered position will be my first alteration.
I believe the stem is a 100cm, but I've got a 120cm Cannondale stock stem I can switch with.
I also believe my saddle and handlebars are slightly pointed downward and thus not flat/level; should I change that?
I believe the stem is a 100cm, but I've got a 120cm Cannondale stock stem I can switch with.
I also believe my saddle and handlebars are slightly pointed downward and thus not flat/level; should I change that?
#45
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Are you too forward relative to the spindles? weight to far forward?
Anti, if you just spend a few hours on this site searching on "fit" I'm pretty confident you can figure out the basics of proper fit. There is some pretty decent info here as well as other sources online. You make changes for a reason. IE my fore\aft balance on the bike is not right so I'm going to play with the fore\aft on my saddle (+ - stem) or I feel like my seat is too high\low so I'm going to lower\raise it or I feel too long\short so I'm going to try a shorter\longer stem or I have too much bar drop so I'm going to try adding some spacers and going with a stem with more rise.
Instead of making changes based on us looking at your pics make changes as based on your own assessment of comfort/efficiency/power after each of your rides. Finding your optimal setup will take time and miles.
You're going to extend the time it takes for you to discover your ideal fit if you make changes to your setup that are not done for a logical reason. I'm still kind of wondering about all that bar drop but what seems like a lot to me may feel perfect to you.
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#46
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well, I don't know exactly what to do because I can't shell out the money for another fit(my previous bike was damaged in an automobile collision and I had been fit to it). it's a 58cm Cannondale CAAD9 Optimo1(2007) and I am 6'1.5'' with rather long legs. any advice for fitting you could give would help immensely.
p.s.: if these pictures are not sufficient, please ask and I'll try to get more. oh, and I was in a rush and didn't have time to put on a kit, though if needed I can do so.
p.s.: if these pictures are not sufficient, please ask and I'll try to get more. oh, and I was in a rush and didn't have time to put on a kit, though if needed I can do so.





