Am I a sissy?
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You probably drank about half of what you should have. I generally follow the above guideline on days where the temperature is normal. The other day I did a little over 40 miles and it was around 95 degrees, so I drank twice the recommended amount (4 - 24oz bottles in just over 2 hours), which worked out about right.
I know a lot of people prefer "real" food, but I use maltodextrin in my water bottles (sometimes with a little salt) on rides over 2 hours. It is easier to keep track of your consumption rate and more convenient than having to eat and drink separately.
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Regarding humidity, heat and sweating, how much do you guys sweat? For some reason I have never sweat much. At the most a little perspiration on my head. I don't think I have Anhidrosis or anything, I do sweat, just not much and it requires me to get very very hot. Could this cause me to drink less water due to losing less fluids? I don't want to overheat, though. I've never been required to wear deodorant due to this and I don't even smell after rides. (my girlfriend is jealous) How much do you guys sweat?
On a ride you sweat a lot more than you notice because of the wind.
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You may be different, so don't take this personally, but my experience with people who say they don't sweat and don't need deodorant is that they are the only person who thinks they don't need deodorant. There is nothing worse than the stink of stale pits.
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I've been riding actively since last August. Call me a noob. My biggest problem isn't the distance, it's finding the time to ride as much as I'd like. I'm 45 with 12, 9, and 4 year old kids. It's hard to find time for long distance rides. The 42 miles I did this weekend (solo, in 2:23...good for me) starts to push the limit of what I can get in without a lot of planning and scheduling. I'd sorely love to complete a century, and I'm fully confident I could go out this nest weekend and do a century...I just don't have the 6-7 hours it would take me (at my current ability) to do it.
In light of this, is there any particular way I should be using my usual one hour after work/dinner rides to help me get ready for that eventual century?
In light of this, is there any particular way I should be using my usual one hour after work/dinner rides to help me get ready for that eventual century?
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There just isn't enough time in a day to do that. Then there'd be the showering, toting clothes besides, changing....argh! If I worked closer to home at a normal company job I'd sure commute...and have actively been looking for precisely that reason.
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You just need to do the following:
- Find your limits
- Exceed them
- Repeat
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To answer your question, no, you're not a sissy? You're a road warrior determined to look after yourself.
The sissy's are the ones on the couch with the remote.
The sissy's are the ones on the couch with the remote.
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I've been riding actively since last August. Call me a noob. My biggest problem isn't the distance, it's finding the time to ride as much as I'd like. I'm 45 with 12, 9, and 4 year old kids. It's hard to find time for long distance rides. The 42 miles I did this weekend (solo, in 2:23...good for me) starts to push the limit of what I can get in without a lot of planning and scheduling. I'd sorely love to complete a century, and I'm fully confident I could go out this nest weekend and do a century...I just don't have the 6-7 hours it would take me (at my current ability) to do it.
In light of this, is there any particular way I should be using my usual one hour after work/dinner rides to help me get ready for that eventual century?
In light of this, is there any particular way I should be using my usual one hour after work/dinner rides to help me get ready for that eventual century?
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It sounded like you were pretty dehydrated to me as well. When I'm doing a training ride, I try to drink enough so that I have to stop to use the restroom every 1.5 hours or so. Good rule of thumb for my body.
You should also take at least 150 calories or so of food for every 1-2 hours that you ride. You will see lots of suggestions on how much to take, but I say play it by ear and eat when you feel like it. I prefer a handful of snack-food every 1.5 hours or so. If I eat any more than that I feel sluggish, and any less than that and I may bonk after 3-4 hours of riding. I know people that literally need to eat twice that amount, and some that can only handle watered-down sports drinks (100 calories per hour range). There is a wide-range of what works for people. You will need to experiment with it.
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I much prefer real food to energy bars, gels, and drink mixes as well. Things like dried fruit, nuts, salty chips and crackers, fig newtons, oatmeal cookies , etc. Energy bars, gels, and sports drinks can upset my stomach. Just a handful of real food works wonders.
You should also take at least 150 calories or so of food for every 1-2 hours that you ride. You will see lots of suggestions on how much to take, but I say play it by ear and eat when you feel like it. I prefer a handful of snack-food every 1.5 hours or so. If I eat any more than that I feel sluggish, and any less than that and I may bonk after 3-4 hours of riding. I know people that literally need to eat twice that amount, and some that can only handle watered-down sports drinks (100 calories per hour range). There is a wide-range of what works for people. You will need to experiment with it.
I eat:
-- bananas
-- other fruit
-- granola bars
-- cereal bars
-- cookies (love the oatmeal chocolate chip cookies)
-- beef jerky
-- salted almonds
-- potato chips
-- sunflower seeds
-- pastries
Stuff like that ... I don't like energy bars. I went through the energy bar phase, and got over it quite quickly when I discovered there was perfectly good real food out there that tasted so much better. And gels are only for emergency use.
-- bananas
-- other fruit
-- granola bars
-- cereal bars
-- cookies (love the oatmeal chocolate chip cookies)
-- beef jerky
-- salted almonds
-- potato chips
-- sunflower seeds
-- pastries
Stuff like that ... I don't like energy bars. I went through the energy bar phase, and got over it quite quickly when I discovered there was perfectly good real food out there that tasted so much better. And gels are only for emergency use.
I much prefer real food to energy bars, gels, and drink mixes as well. Things like dried fruit, nuts, salty chips and crackers, fig newtons, oatmeal cookies , etc. Energy bars, gels, and sports drinks can upset my stomach. Just a handful of real food works wonders.
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Are you a sissy? You rode 35 miles and probably feel beat up afterward. Will you do it again?
If you you answer no then yes you are a sissy! If you answer yes, I will do it again then your question is answered.
I started riding last July and remember feeling like I had done an impressive feat after a 16 mile ride. I got better and was able to go further. Then one Saturday I went out with some guys and we did a 40 mile ride most of the way up a mountain. A few weeks later I did a solo metric. Now a decent ride begins at 30 miles and a really good ride starts at anything over 50. I say this as I am in my mid 40s and as of last Summer was in terrible shape.
Trust me, you'll look back on this post and chuckle in a few months. Keep riding.
If you you answer no then yes you are a sissy! If you answer yes, I will do it again then your question is answered.
I started riding last July and remember feeling like I had done an impressive feat after a 16 mile ride. I got better and was able to go further. Then one Saturday I went out with some guys and we did a 40 mile ride most of the way up a mountain. A few weeks later I did a solo metric. Now a decent ride begins at 30 miles and a really good ride starts at anything over 50. I say this as I am in my mid 40s and as of last Summer was in terrible shape.
Trust me, you'll look back on this post and chuckle in a few months. Keep riding.
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To all the rest of you, thanks a lot for the advice. This thread has helped a lot. I wish I could respond to each one of you but there are too many! Sorry I got back to this so late, I was building a gate. Yay for summer projects! (Not sarcasm, I enjoy working in the shop) Next in line is a new 16x16' shed.
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Well, just to chime in here... I just rode around our ring road here in Reno for the first time last Sat.
Its around 23 miles, with 2 pretty serious hills. Previously Ive been riding the 12 mile round trip to work and back semi-regularly, and thats about my longest ride, so hopping right into the 23 mile mccaran loop was double the distance, and all in once shot rather than at the beginning and end of day.
I surprised myself with how decent i did, i made it in around 2.5 hours, without stops due to tiredness (stopped for a snack and at a bike shop) but at the end of the ride there was the second major hill, and it just about killed me, plus it was about 90*F that day.
I made it, but felt like death for a few mins right afterwards. The way i see it, if your not doing rides that hurt, then your not pushing very hard.
Also consider hills into it. If your doing hills, they take a lot out of you. I feel pretty confident that if we had a hundred miles of flats around here i could ride it fairly easily, but not with hill climbs...
Like others said, eat before you leave(not a ton), and drink plenty of water.
Its around 23 miles, with 2 pretty serious hills. Previously Ive been riding the 12 mile round trip to work and back semi-regularly, and thats about my longest ride, so hopping right into the 23 mile mccaran loop was double the distance, and all in once shot rather than at the beginning and end of day.
I surprised myself with how decent i did, i made it in around 2.5 hours, without stops due to tiredness (stopped for a snack and at a bike shop) but at the end of the ride there was the second major hill, and it just about killed me, plus it was about 90*F that day.
I made it, but felt like death for a few mins right afterwards. The way i see it, if your not doing rides that hurt, then your not pushing very hard.
Also consider hills into it. If your doing hills, they take a lot out of you. I feel pretty confident that if we had a hundred miles of flats around here i could ride it fairly easily, but not with hill climbs...
Like others said, eat before you leave(not a ton), and drink plenty of water.
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I came at distances differently, I didn't start "cold". I starting biking 5 miles to work, so 10 miles a day every day and occasionally going further now and then. Two years later I finally got a decent road bike and was really nervous if I could do a long ride. I did a 50 mile ride no prob. It just takes time to work up to it.
But you should have toasted that entire bottle of water. DRINK TONS you can't drink to much... well sort of.
For what it's worth, I can bike all day and all night, but I'm a huge sissy coming down hills. I ride the brakes like crazy... I've reached 40mph or so but doing sharp turns at that speed or in the 30s just freaks me out!
But you should have toasted that entire bottle of water. DRINK TONS you can't drink to much... well sort of.
For what it's worth, I can bike all day and all night, but I'm a huge sissy coming down hills. I ride the brakes like crazy... I've reached 40mph or so but doing sharp turns at that speed or in the 30s just freaks me out!
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I'm the OP's girlfriend, I've smelled his pits and even after his so-called "sweating" outside in the heat and working hard he doesn't smell bad. I am so jealous!
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I just got back from my longest ride thus far, a measly 35 miles averaging about 15mph. (Although I like to think of it as over half of a metric century ) The first 30 miles or so were great, but the last couple really killed me. Climbing the last hill up to my parents' house I was in a haze. After seeing the type of miles you guys ride regularly I feel as if my mileage is a paltry achievement in comparison.
Maybe I just tried too much too soon. I just got off on summer vacation and am trying to really step up my mileage. (I am a new rider in general though) My longest ride prior was around 17 miles. How bad was 35 miles or so when you first started out? I think I might have just run out of energy. I only had a cucumber sandwich for lunch and brought along one granola bar. Am I doing OK for starting to ramp up the mileage or showing the effects of a sedentary semester (HTFU!)?
Maybe I just tried too much too soon. I just got off on summer vacation and am trying to really step up my mileage. (I am a new rider in general though) My longest ride prior was around 17 miles. How bad was 35 miles or so when you first started out? I think I might have just run out of energy. I only had a cucumber sandwich for lunch and brought along one granola bar. Am I doing OK for starting to ramp up the mileage or showing the effects of a sedentary semester (HTFU!)?
We all start from somewhere, and so will you. With each distance ride (doesn't have to be every ride), go as far as you think you can handle...and then go a little further. You'll be riding centuries and their ilk in no time.
Regarding your question, I did my 38 mile ride much slower two years ago than you did your 35. Nowadays, that ride is a short one for me, and I usually do it in two hours or so.
Also, it's pretty fundamental that you eat right on your ride. If you were really hungry towards the tail end of it, then you didn't eat enough. Just starting out, you will eat a lot, which is okay. As you learn portion control and your body acclimates to distance better, you will feel like eating less. It takes time, but you'll get there. Just don't eat too much crap and you'll be good to go!
After my first century, I ate Pork Fried Rice with Gen Tso's Chicken and Shrimp (i.e. NOT Chinese Food) like a monster. And it wasn't enough because after riding home, I ate some more. After last year's century, I was only hungry enough for some sushi and rice.
Also - after riding, when breathing deeply I get this weird sensation in my throat and have to cough. What causes this? I've experienced this after swimming a lot as well.
How much do you normally drink on a ride of that length? I only drank about 4/5 of a 24oz bottle of water. It was pretty cool at about 75 degrees.
How much do you normally drink on a ride of that length? I only drank about 4/5 of a 24oz bottle of water. It was pretty cool at about 75 degrees.
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Not an oatmeal cookie, but the last time I ate a choco chip cookie on a century, my stomach blew up. On the other hand, if I eat a Clif Bar with the same choco chips, I feel fine.
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