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Romans8:28 07-01-09 05:15 AM

They should have been in the other lane..... you always run, jog, walk, etc FACING traffic

chipcom 07-01-09 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by Romans8:28 (Post 9199373)
They should have been in the other lane..... you always run, jog, walk, etc FACING traffic

Got a cite to the relevant law? Didn't think so.
Many make the same claim concerning bikes.

When I was a young buck running 3-10 miles a day, I ran with traffic. The facing traffic thing comes from an irrational fear of not seeing what is behind you, IMO.

BlazingPedals 07-01-09 06:07 AM

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Mose 07-01-09 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by chipcom (Post 9199385)
Got a cite to the relevant law? Didn't think so.
Many make the same claim concerning bikes.

When I was a young buck running 3-10 miles a day, I ran with traffic. The facing traffic thing comes from an irrational fear of not seeing what is behind you, IMO.

Not sure about Ohio, but at least in Masachusetts:

At a traffic signal, a pedestrian shall cross only on the proper pedestrian signal indication or green indication. [720 CMR 9.09 (1,2)] Pedestrians shall attempt to use the right half of crosswalks, must use sidewalks, pedestrian tunnels and overpasses when provided, shall walk along the left shoulder of an undivided highway and the right shoulder of a divided highway [720 CMR 9.09 (4)]. These are regulations for state highways. Local ordinances may differ.

http://www.massbike.org/bikelaw/masumm.htm

Don't know if I can find my local ordinances online

Romans8:28 07-01-09 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by chipcom (Post 9199385)
Got a cite to the relevant law? Didn't think so.
Many make the same claim concerning bikes.

When I was a young buck running 3-10 miles a day, I ran with traffic. The facing traffic thing comes from an irrational fear of not seeing what is behind you, IMO.

Well if you ran on the right, with traffic behind you, you are extremely fortunate to have progressed from a "young buck" to "old buck"

chipcom 07-01-09 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Romans8:28 (Post 9201829)
Well if you ran on the right, with traffic behind you, you are extremely fortunate to have progressed from a "young buck" to "old buck"

Why is that? Why was it any more risky than riding a bike with traffic?

Febs 07-01-09 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by chipcom (Post 9199385)
Got a cite to the relevant law? Didn't think so.

Actually, the law does require pedestrians to walk on the left side when they are in the roadway. Here is the relevant Pennsylvania statute, for example:

§ 3544. Pedestrians walking along or on highway.
(a) Mandatory use of available sidewalk.--Where a sidewalk is provided and its use is practicable, it is unlawful for any pedestrian to walk along and upon an adjacent roadway.
(b) Absence of sidewalk.--Where a sidewalk is not available, any pedestrian walking along and upon a highway shall walk only on a shoulder as far as practicable from the edge of the roadway.
(c) Absence of sidewalk and shoulder.--Where neither a sidewalk nor a shoulder is available, any pedestrian walking along and upon a highway shall walk as near as practicable to an outside edge of the roadway and, if on a two-way roadway, shall walk only on the left side of the roadway.
(d) Right-of-way to vehicles.--Except as otherwise provided in this subchapter, any pedestrian upon a roadway shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the roadway.

MattDC 07-01-09 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Romans8:28 (Post 9199373)
They should have been in the other lane..... you always run, jog, walk, etc FACING traffic

Now this is unhappy, rush hour traffic and having to suicide squeeze between a jogger running toward me in the bike lane and the metro buss trying to run me in to the parked cars. At least if they are running with traffic I can slow till it is safe to pass, running toward me that option is out of the mix. Oh well if this is my biggest problem, my life is cake.

RichinPeoria 07-01-09 12:41 PM

Its been my observation that todays old people in the United States seem to think the world revolves around them. Everyone else can eat $#!+ and is just in their way. Your experience does not suprise me. I have had similar.

MattDC 07-01-09 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by RichinPeoria (Post 9201961)
Its been my observation that todays old people in the United States seem to think the world revolves around them. Everyone else can eat $#!+ and is just in their way. Your experience does not suprise me. I have had similar.

Correction, old people just don't give a hang, the're old. How else do you explain out-a-shape-to-freakishly-deformed old dudes in the gym that are far more comfortable with their nudity than anyone who many happen a glance.

Febs 07-01-09 12:46 PM

For ChipCom's benefit, here is an excerpt from Ohio's Digest of Motor Vehicle Laws, http://publicsafety.ohio.gov/links/hsy7607.pdf


WALKING ALONG ROADWAY
When usable walks or paths parallel to the street or highway are present, pedestrians shall not walk in, along or upon the vehicular portion of the roadway. When there is no usable sidewalk, pedestrians are required to walk on the road’s shoulder or berm where possible. When this is not possible, they must walk as near as possible to the edge of the road, facing oncoming traffic. These requirements apply to joggers as well as walkers.

Romans8:28 07-01-09 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by chipcom (Post 9201928)
Why is that? Why was it any more risky than riding a bike with traffic?

You really have to ask?

Because you are moving slower and are less visible (in most cases). I could not imagine myself having the nerve to walk down an actual road (not subdivision) with traffic approaching me from behind at 55 mph.

MattDC 07-01-09 12:58 PM

What about urban bike lanes? I say ixnay the oggersjay.

swieton 07-01-09 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by MattDC (Post 9201957)
At least if they are running with traffic I can slow till it is safe to pass, running toward me that option is out of the mix. Oh well if this is my biggest problem, my life is cake.

Well the previous post that quoted the Pennsylvania law said this: "(d) Right-of-way to vehicles.--Except as otherwise provided in this subchapter, any pedestrian upon a roadway shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the roadway."

So the answer is, if they're in your way they're doing it wrong.

chipcom 07-01-09 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by chipcom (Post 9201928)
Why is that? Why was it any more risky than riding a bike with traffic?


Originally Posted by Romans8:28 (Post 9202057)
You really have to ask?

Because you are moving slower and are less visible (in most cases). I could not imagine myself having the nerve to walk down an actual road (not subdivision) with traffic approaching me from behind at 55 mph.

You didn't answer the question...unless you are saying that you ride your bike facing traffic too. Do you?

If you are afraid, don't know how to use your hearing or your eyes or don't do what is necessary to make yourself visible, those are your crosses to bear.
Also, in case you didn't realize it, all roads do not have traffic moving at 55mph +

chipcom 07-01-09 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by swieton (Post 9202118)
Well the previous post that quoted the Pennsylvania law said this: "(d) Right-of-way to vehicles.--Except as otherwise provided in this subchapter, any pedestrian upon a roadway shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the roadway."

So the answer is, if they're in your way they're doing it wrong.

So what? Geesh, it's like impatient drivers are learning to ride bikes but not leaving their impatience in their motor vehicles. When in traffic things get in your way...deal with it or stay home.

FixdGearHead 07-01-09 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by schnee (Post 9197183)
Find: riding
Replace: driving

Find: jobbers
Replace: cyclists

Find: bikers
Replace: cars

Result: comedy uranium!


http://imgur.com/HQ9bZ.jpg

chipcom 07-01-09 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by FixdGearHead (Post 9202187)

Didn't you know that them joggers are taking falls for pro wrestlers on the side? :lol:

FixdGearHead 07-01-09 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by chipcom (Post 9202242)
Didn't you know that them joggers are taking falls for pro wrestlers on the side? :lol:

You forced me to visit Google to figure out what the hell you were referring to; I hate when i have to do that. :o

FixdGearHead 07-01-09 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by schnee (Post 9202268)
Last edited by Bearonabike; 06-30-09 at 05:24 PM.
;)

All in good fun. :thumb: I'm bored at work

Nachoman 07-01-09 01:32 PM

If it makes you feel any better, jobbers bug me too.

chipcom 07-01-09 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by Nachoman (Post 9202317)
If it makes you feel any better, jobbers bug me too.

Own a gas station?

Romans8:28 07-01-09 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by chipcom (Post 9202120)
You didn't answer the question...unless you are saying that you ride your bike facing traffic too. Do you?

If you are afraid, don't know how to use your hearing or your eyes or don't do what is necessary to make yourself visible, those are your crosses to bear.
Also, in case you didn't realize it, all roads do not have traffic moving at 55mph +

Read much?

I said "because you are moving slower and are less visible in most cases"

IRONHEAD1 07-01-09 01:55 PM

what burns my ass cheeks is when you get someone riding a bike against traffic in the bike lane, I don't even want to go into what types of people I typically see doing this but it happens often in my town and the people are oblivious to the little bike sign and arrow onto the road.

chipcom 07-01-09 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Romans8:28 (Post 9202471)
Read much?

I said "because you are moving slower and are less visible in most cases"

and I call BS. When I was running I was probably more visible than your typical cyclist and in many cases not much slower...sometimes faster.

Try again.


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