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Can anyone give me the model number of the one I'd need to order. I'm a little confused on the Quarq site as to which would be the appropriate one.
Is it a somewhat common problem to have the chain come off the crank in the front? I had it happen to me once yesterday as I was riding. I shifted down in the front and up in the back at the same time and it just slid off the inside. I checked the alignment and it looks good. I was able to replicate it on the trainer once - however I had to stop peddling, shift down in the front, and start peddling fast again to make it happen. I was told for the first couple hundred miles, all the cables are still expanding / everything is still getting broken in, so not to worry too much about everything not being absolutely perfect.
cam, i really recommend swapping out the crank for an SRM or quarq. You won't lose any performance, and the weight difference is minimal. If you're going to be swapping around wheels, it's much cheaper in the long run. If you ride and train with power, you don't want to ride without it unless you haveto.
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SRAM S900 CinQo + Cranks, Chainrings, BB = 935g (without BB = 808g)
FSA Team Issue CinQo+Cranks, Chainrings, BB = 936g (without BB = 803g)
Rotor Agilis CinQo + Cranks, Chainrings, BB = 909g (without BB = 812g)
If the 11-speed is not a problem, any of these would work but you would need the matching bottom bracket. Quarq is supposed to come out with a spider for the lightweight "Lightning" crank fairly soon so it may be worth waiting for that.
That being said, I was to some extent kidding about getting a power meter... just that you got everything else. You should probably just ride around for a while before worrying about a power meter. I wanted to see what you would say/do and it is a little disturbing how easy it is to "convince" you to spend money...
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I think he meant "sprinter" as in can only ride a short distance (usage similar to "sprint triathlon") rather than that he could actually "sprint" 
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That being said, I was to some extent kidding about getting a power meter... just that you got everything else. You should probably just ride around for a while before worrying about a power meter. I wanted to see what you would say/do and it is a little disturbing how easy it is to "convince" you to spend money...
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I wanted to add a power meter since the beginning to complete the telemetry from my 705. I was already convinced on getting one (even exchanged emails with a few people about getting it built in to a wheel set), it was just a matter of which one. I've seen that unit before, but didn't think it would work with my SR - I'll give them a call or send them an email to see if the have a compatible one.
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Given you're struggling up some hills and still building some endurance and overall fitness, maybe a power meter might be a bit excessive right now. But I don't think any of Cinqo's stuff will work with Campy 11-speed, since the chain for 11-speed is narrower than the 10-speed stuff.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
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My favorite part about this forum are the one's who find ways to add in stuff like: "Yeah, I have a Porsche too AND several high end bikes and camera schwag..." Or "yea when I was in college I found ways to buy BMW's and [enter schwag here]".
Then they say that we shouldn't be inciting class warfare.
Then they say that we shouldn't be inciting class warfare.
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My favorite part about this forum are the one's who find ways to add in stuff like: "Yeah, I have a Porsche too AND several high end bikes and camera schwag..." Or "yea when I was in college I found ways to buy BMW's and [enter schwag here]".
Then they say that we shouldn't be inciting class warfare.
Then they say that we shouldn't be inciting class warfare.
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My favorite part about this forum are the one's who find ways to add in stuff like: "Yeah, I have a Porsche too AND several high end bikes and camera schwag..." Or "yea when I was in college I found ways to buy BMW's and [enter schwag here]".
Then they say that we shouldn't be inciting class warfare.
Then they say that we shouldn't be inciting class warfare.
Then they get mad when as a 39 year old who paid for everything myself in my life asks how they are buying $110k cars at 19. Sure you did it with your part time job. What a joke. Not jealous because there is a much greater intrinsic reward when you earn things on your own, just don't like hearing a bunch of bull#$#$#.
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Exactly,
Then they get mad when as a 39 year old who paid for everything myself in my life asks how they are buying $110k cars at 19. Sure you did it with your part time job. What a joke. Not jealous because there is a much greater intrinsic reward when you earn things on your own, just don't like hearing a bunch of bull#$#$#.
Then they get mad when as a 39 year old who paid for everything myself in my life asks how they are buying $110k cars at 19. Sure you did it with your part time job. What a joke. Not jealous because there is a much greater intrinsic reward when you earn things on your own, just don't like hearing a bunch of bull#$#$#.
Now, I would argue, here, that perhaps this money is not truly worked for? Perhaps they were smart enough to get around truly doing any hard work. And, who can blame them? We can complain, but they're the ones driving your mid-life crisis car at 20
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My favorite part about this forum are the one's who find ways to add in stuff like: "Yeah, I have a Porsche too AND several high end bikes and camera schwag..." Or "yea when I was in college I found ways to buy BMW's and [enter schwag here]".
Then they say that we shouldn't be inciting class warfare.
Then they say that we shouldn't be inciting class warfare.
Exactly,
Then they get mad when as a 39 year old who paid for everything myself in my life asks how they are buying $110k cars at 19. Sure you did it with your part time job. What a joke. Not jealous because there is a much greater intrinsic reward when you earn things on your own, just don't like hearing a bunch of bull#$#$#.
Then they get mad when as a 39 year old who paid for everything myself in my life asks how they are buying $110k cars at 19. Sure you did it with your part time job. What a joke. Not jealous because there is a much greater intrinsic reward when you earn things on your own, just don't like hearing a bunch of bull#$#$#.
For the record I don't necessarily think that blowing lots of money on cars and whatnot is the best idea at 20, but without knowing the full picture we don't know how much of what he has he is spending or saving, and it's really not any of our business.
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Exactly,
Then they get mad when as a 39 year old who paid for everything myself in my life asks how they are buying $110k cars at 19. Sure you did it with your part time job. What a joke. Not jealous because there is a much greater intrinsic reward when you earn things on your own, just don't like hearing a bunch of bull#$#$#.
Then they get mad when as a 39 year old who paid for everything myself in my life asks how they are buying $110k cars at 19. Sure you did it with your part time job. What a joke. Not jealous because there is a much greater intrinsic reward when you earn things on your own, just don't like hearing a bunch of bull#$#$#.
07-12-09, 02:43 PM
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cam, i really recommend swapping out the crank for an SRM or quarq. You won't lose any performance, and the weight difference is minimal. If you're going to be swapping around wheels, it's much cheaper in the long run. If you ride and train with power, you don't want to ride without it unless you haveto.
Sure your groupset won't be complete, but quarqs and srms are much more useful than a campy specific crankset.
As for the riding:
At your weight, you don't have the mass to sprint hard. You're lacking endurance, but that doesn't mean that you're automatically a sprinter. Sure you might have a good kick, but honestly you're too light for it.
As you keep riding and adding miles, your endurance will increase and you'll figure out what you're good at. For your first year, concentrate on adding and adding miles, and then talk to the coach for your collegiate team and see if they'll set up a schedule for you. It should be very reasonably priced.
You'll improve well if you do.
What makes you think that the OP didn't have a gig like umd throughout his high school and middle school years?
Think about it. If the OP started working in say 8th or 9th grade and made as much as umd did, they'd have over 100k by graduation. If they had enough scholarships to go to college, then they'd have over 200k by graduation. If they were smart and invested the money, that figure could easily be doubled.
I fail to see the conundrum.
umd's done well, and he gives back a ton and has helped me out personally when I needed it and I'm thankful for that. You just can't seem to stop trying to look for something that umd and the OP haven't done by themself instead of taking a step back and going, "wow, these guys took the initiative when they were young, nice to see someone do that."
That's called entrepreneurship. Sorry, not everyone has that. I know I don't.
Sure your groupset won't be complete, but quarqs and srms are much more useful than a campy specific crankset.
As for the riding:
At your weight, you don't have the mass to sprint hard. You're lacking endurance, but that doesn't mean that you're automatically a sprinter. Sure you might have a good kick, but honestly you're too light for it.
As you keep riding and adding miles, your endurance will increase and you'll figure out what you're good at. For your first year, concentrate on adding and adding miles, and then talk to the coach for your collegiate team and see if they'll set up a schedule for you. It should be very reasonably priced.
You'll improve well if you do.
What makes you think that the OP didn't have a gig like umd throughout his high school and middle school years?
Think about it. If the OP started working in say 8th or 9th grade and made as much as umd did, they'd have over 100k by graduation. If they had enough scholarships to go to college, then they'd have over 200k by graduation. If they were smart and invested the money, that figure could easily be doubled.
I fail to see the conundrum.
umd's done well, and he gives back a ton and has helped me out personally when I needed it and I'm thankful for that. You just can't seem to stop trying to look for something that umd and the OP haven't done by themself instead of taking a step back and going, "wow, these guys took the initiative when they were young, nice to see someone do that."
That's called entrepreneurship. Sorry, not everyone has that. I know I don't.
LOL,
You guys are killing me. Most of us mature folk all call BU$#$#$ on this kid's "financial independence". And even if he generated $200k by 19 years of age, his father is irresponsible for allowing his son to piss it away on cars.
As far as the bike is concerned. umd, ridethecliche etc, when you have kids and they express an interest in a new hobby, knock yourself out and buy them $10k worth of equipment for their first lesson. LOL
Oh, and BTW, I bet this kid only got "back" into cycling because of Lance's return. He said he got a Trek 4years ago with Dura Ace that he hasn't ridden and now buys the most popular brand upon his return. Coincidence? I bet once Lance retires again, Nosferatu sees more sunlight than that bike.
07-12-09, 03:01 PM
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BINGO. This statement is just so utterly and completely correct that it's hard for me to imagine anyone even considering a counter-argument. It's just no one's damn business how he paid for the bike. The fact that someone would go on and on about it says WAY more about them than it does about the OP or his finances. And I won't even BEGIN to address how %^@!ing pathetic it is to insult his parents on top of all the other bs tossed at this kid for buying a nice bike.
Can we talk about what a gorgeous machine it is now?
Can we talk about what a gorgeous machine it is now?
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When I was in high school, I started doing photography for the yearbook. My dad gave me his old camera and I used that for a while, until it broke (the shutter screens started sticking). I did some research and decided I wanted a Canon EOS Elan IIe. Camera was I think about $800 and with lenses and whatnot I wanted to spend about $2000, probably around 1996. Parents were against it, didn't want me to spend that much money, so I got something else. Eventually convinced them to let me get it but I compromised on the lenses. The next year I got the lenses I wanted in the first place so spent even more money. I have a 1D and several L lenses now... Not sure there was a point, just remembering the good times
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BINGO. This statement is just so utterly and completely correct that it's hard for me to imagine anyone even considering a counter-argument. It's just no one's damn business how he paid for the bike. The fact that someone would go on and on about it says WAY more about them than it does about the OP or his finances. And I won't even BEGIN to address how %^@!ing pathetic it is to insult his parents on top of all the other bs tossed at this kid for buying a nice bike.
Can we talk about what a gorgeous machine it is now?
Can we talk about what a gorgeous machine it is now?
But all the talk about power meters, graphs, cadence, GPS are all ridiculous considering his current ability. Kind of like the guy at the bowling alley with the $400 ball, wrist guards, towels, etc and I rolled a 220 with my $2 ball I bought in college off the rack at the local alley. LOL
In fact, I don't even keep track of my mileage any more. I glance at my distance, avg, time at the end of the ride, but never record it. I am stronger, lighter, faster than I have been in years. Point is, JUST RIDE THE FU$#$#$ THING.
07-12-09, 03:34 PM
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Just so I dont have to make another thread to waste space and their is enough people posting in here to have the question to answer.....which would you purchase?
09 LOOK 566 origin with Rival
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09 Cervelo S1 with Ultegra SL (might be able to get it with Rival though)
09 LOOK 566 origin with Rival
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09 Cervelo S1 with Ultegra SL (might be able to get it with Rival though)
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Now it's finances, before it was speed and power meter numbers. Unfortunately, no one has the cojones to post their credit score, pdf of investment portfolio from UBS or whatever and titke to theri real state property. Even PCAD with his website and uber business cannot post his P and L
07-12-09, 03:48 PM
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When I was in high school, I started doing photography for the yearbook. My dad gave me his old camera and I used that for a while, until it broke (the shutter screens started sticking). I did some research and decided I wanted a Canon EOS Elan IIe. Camera was I think about $800 and with lenses and whatnot I wanted to spend about $2000, probably around 1996. Parents were against it, didn't want me to spend that much money, so I got something else. Eventually convinved them to let me get it but I compromised on the lenses. The next year I got the lenses I wanted in the first place so spent even more money. I have a 1D and several L lenses now... Not sure there was a point, just remembering the good times
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Yep,
That is right, I don't keep track. Must drive the data guys crazy to even contemplate that. I rode 53 solo miles today, some hilly terrain with about an 18 MPH average. That is all I know or need to know until I reset tomorrow morning for my 35 mile ride before going to work. Meter, graphs, GPS, altitude readings, how much sweat off my B#$#$ is meaningless to me. Blasphemy.
That is right, I don't keep track. Must drive the data guys crazy to even contemplate that. I rode 53 solo miles today, some hilly terrain with about an 18 MPH average. That is all I know or need to know until I reset tomorrow morning for my 35 mile ride before going to work. Meter, graphs, GPS, altitude readings, how much sweat off my B#$#$ is meaningless to me. Blasphemy.
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Yep,
That is right, I don't keep track. Must drive the data guys crazy to even contemplate that. I rode 53 solo miles today, some hilly terrain with about an 18 MPH average. That is all I know or need to know until I reset tomorrow morning for my 35 mile ride before going to work. Meter, graphs, GPS, altitude readings, how much sweat off my B#$#$ is meaningless to me. Blasphemy.
That is right, I don't keep track. Must drive the data guys crazy to even contemplate that. I rode 53 solo miles today, some hilly terrain with about an 18 MPH average. That is all I know or need to know until I reset tomorrow morning for my 35 mile ride before going to work. Meter, graphs, GPS, altitude readings, how much sweat off my B#$#$ is meaningless to me. Blasphemy.
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Yep,
That is right, I don't keep track. Must drive the data guys crazy to even contemplate that. I rode 53 solo miles today, some hilly terrain with about an 18 MPH average. That is all I know or need to know until I reset tomorrow morning for my 35 mile ride before going to work. Meter, graphs, GPS, altitude readings, how much sweat off my B#$#$ is meaningless to me. Blasphemy.
That is right, I don't keep track. Must drive the data guys crazy to even contemplate that. I rode 53 solo miles today, some hilly terrain with about an 18 MPH average. That is all I know or need to know until I reset tomorrow morning for my 35 mile ride before going to work. Meter, graphs, GPS, altitude readings, how much sweat off my B#$#$ is meaningless to me. Blasphemy.