The Same Fixed Gear 'Hooligans' Riding with Lance
07-13-09 | 08:55 PM
#27
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https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ght=lance+mash
NEW VIDEO HERE:
https://www.mashsf.com/
--the same guys as in the Lance video. Now that they're in lycra and more 'like you' do you hate them less?! More?! The same?!
BUT: "Why don't they get a geared bike?! Howcome they'd want to even try that on a track bike?! (They completed the entire Tour, incidentally). Don't they know they're idiots for spinning down hills like that?! What kind of crazy kid would try to mash up hills with one gear?!"
AND: "Why do those kids play that darned 'rock n roll' music so loudly?! Why don't you worship my God?! Why can't everyone have the same skin color as I?!
A bike is a bike is a bike... maybe try and embrace all cycling and cyclists and try to hate a little less. The MASH guys did not see one of you riding with Lance, or doing the Tour of California on your road or fixed gear bike. However, the MASH guys respect all of you and hope you enjoy riding your bikes as much as they do theirs.
Enjoy.
NEW VIDEO HERE:
https://www.mashsf.com/
--the same guys as in the Lance video. Now that they're in lycra and more 'like you' do you hate them less?! More?! The same?!
BUT: "Why don't they get a geared bike?! Howcome they'd want to even try that on a track bike?! (They completed the entire Tour, incidentally). Don't they know they're idiots for spinning down hills like that?! What kind of crazy kid would try to mash up hills with one gear?!"
AND: "Why do those kids play that darned 'rock n roll' music so loudly?! Why don't you worship my God?! Why can't everyone have the same skin color as I?!
A bike is a bike is a bike... maybe try and embrace all cycling and cyclists and try to hate a little less. The MASH guys did not see one of you riding with Lance, or doing the Tour of California on your road or fixed gear bike. However, the MASH guys respect all of you and hope you enjoy riding your bikes as much as they do theirs.
Enjoy.
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07-13-09 | 09:13 PM
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I'm not into the other trick BS, but that video was really cool. People forget that the Tour was ridden fixed in the early days. Maybe people will think the MASH guys are stupid for riding the ToC fixed when they could be using gears and everything else that's available to the modern cyclist, but it brings back a bit of nostalgia to the early days of cycling.
I think their kit looks really cool, too. A bit too expensive for me though..
I think their kit looks really cool, too. A bit too expensive for me though..
07-13-09 | 09:31 PM
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its funny when guys who bought bikes that exceed their cycling skill set complain about people who get rad. bet $$$ if you met those mash guys you would be all like 'wow guys, impressive. i would never attempt the ToC on a fixed gear bike. good job and congrats'
07-13-09 | 09:45 PM
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QUOTE=91MF;9274976]its funny when guys who bought bikes that exceed their cycling skill set complain about people who get rad. bet $$$ if you met those mash guys you would be all like 'wow guys, impressive. i would never attempt the ToC on a fixed gear bike. good job and congrats'[/QUOTE]
You've good a bad attitude.
How do we qualify this?
According to your criterion?
I think Pcad had it right when he said that we are all too slow and fat to worry about being worth the bikes we ride anyway. That is such a silly, unimportant thing to worry about. Being "worthy" of your bike or not? Hah!
You've good a bad attitude.
How do we qualify this?
According to your criterion?
I think Pcad had it right when he said that we are all too slow and fat to worry about being worth the bikes we ride anyway. That is such a silly, unimportant thing to worry about. Being "worthy" of your bike or not? Hah!
07-13-09 | 10:05 PM
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I do wish they would follow a few more (any?) of the traffic laws, but I also wish a few more of my group rides were more like this (fun). Seems like all the guys I ride with want to do is practice their paceline. Whenever I suggest a race to the top of the hill, or sprint to a line, the look at me like I'm an alien.
07-13-09 | 10:06 PM
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Don't hate the bike, hate the rider....
or don't hate anything at all...
I have a fixed gear road bike and i LOVE it. I haul ass on it and take it on some of the same routes I take my road bike on...
or don't hate anything at all...
I have a fixed gear road bike and i LOVE it. I haul ass on it and take it on some of the same routes I take my road bike on...
07-13-09 | 10:08 PM
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As I'm getting back into cycling, part of what has brought me back has been the simplicity of a fixie. It has improved everyting about my riding, my power, strength, endurance, speed, cadence, spin, cornering and general bike handleing skills. But then again, I like brakes and can't afford replacing tires every week because of skiding.
Sure it takes some getting used to, but try it, you'll like it.
Sure it takes some getting used to, but try it, you'll like it.
07-13-09 | 10:09 PM
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07-13-09 | 10:29 PM
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You've good a bad attitude.
How do we qualify this?
According to your criterion?
I think Pcad had it right when he said that we are all too slow and fat to worry about being worth the bikes we ride anyway. That is such a silly, unimportant thing to worry about. Being "worthy" of your bike or not? Hah!
How do we qualify this?
According to your criterion?
I think Pcad had it right when he said that we are all too slow and fat to worry about being worth the bikes we ride anyway. That is such a silly, unimportant thing to worry about. Being "worthy" of your bike or not? Hah!
07-13-09 | 10:38 PM
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don't act like this isn't cool:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVbwn...om=PL&index=46
have. nothing special.
07-13-09 | 10:41 PM
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haha you missed my point completely. most guys making the statement regarding the use of only one gear are the guys with super light full carbon frames with 10-speed gruppos and skinsuits who i drop anyway on my 22lb 7-speed in clips, straps and vans. its not the bike. its you.
You do realize that not everyone you pass is trying to race you right?
Also please refrain from using phrases like "most guys, "those guys",ect....
It's pretty pretentious and tiring as well.
-especially if you are talking about a demographic of which you are apparently an outsider to.
And if you truly believe that it's not the bike, it's the rider, why would you even worry about someone else's equipment anyway?
People with carbon 10-speed bikes are those who are seriously competitive and understand that equipment matters (to a certain degree), or are those who just like nice things.
Whats wrong with that?
07-13-09 | 10:48 PM
#41
Nothing wrong with fixed gear riding - it makes you stronger, and taught me how to spin fast.
Downhills are interesting when using your legs to brake - I never did a pass fixed though. Doing two back to back centuries on one was enough for my knees to say "never again." Though I should break it out for the local velodrome some time.
Downhills are interesting when using your legs to brake - I never did a pass fixed though. Doing two back to back centuries on one was enough for my knees to say "never again." Though I should break it out for the local velodrome some time.
07-13-09 | 10:51 PM
#42
I'm game. I don't hate these guys, per se; I didn't watch the video. I *do* have plenty of hate to go around, though.
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07-13-09 | 11:05 PM
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Nothing wrong with fixed gear riding - it makes you stronger, and taught me how to spin fast.
Downhills are interesting when using your legs to brake - I never did a pass fixed though. Doing two back to back centuries on one was enough for my knees to say "never again." Though I should break it out for the local velodrome some time.
Downhills are interesting when using your legs to brake - I never did a pass fixed though. Doing two back to back centuries on one was enough for my knees to say "never again." Though I should break it out for the local velodrome some time.
And BTW haven't you done 10 races yet???? Or are alot of those reports training/practice crits?
07-13-09 | 11:05 PM
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As others have said, these MASH guys deserve a lot of respect for what they do. Problem is that much as Roadie does not equal Lance Armstrong, Fixie-rider does not equal MASH guy (wearing spandex).
My only beef with fixie riders is with the group who totter around aimlessly at 10 mph with their aerospokes and bullhorns thinking they're the ****. All they do is block traffic and give other cyclists a bad name. I've actually had a couple yell/spit at me for wearing my team kit while out for a ride.
That being said, I really don't care what you ride as long as you ride. If you ride a pink Binachi Pista with Green/Blue Aerospokes in tight jeans and ride it like a bike instead of a fashion accessory, I'll have nothing bad to say about it.
My only beef with fixie riders is with the group who totter around aimlessly at 10 mph with their aerospokes and bullhorns thinking they're the ****. All they do is block traffic and give other cyclists a bad name. I've actually had a couple yell/spit at me for wearing my team kit while out for a ride.
That being said, I really don't care what you ride as long as you ride. If you ride a pink Binachi Pista with Green/Blue Aerospokes in tight jeans and ride it like a bike instead of a fashion accessory, I'll have nothing bad to say about it.
07-13-09 | 11:12 PM
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I do wish they would follow a few more (any?) of the traffic laws, but I also wish a few more of my group rides were more like this (fun). Seems like all the guys I ride with want to do is practice their paceline. Whenever I suggest a race to the top of the hill, or sprint to a line, the look at me like I'm an alien.
I ride a fixed gear and I love it. I've been riding BMX all my life, but it was a fixed gear that got me into road riding.
I don't do tricks on my FG (save that for the 20") so I ride my fixed gear in the same manner as my road bike. I'm not a very good climber and I save my big climbs for my road bike - so I can appreciate the climbing efforts of these guys. I kinda ride my FG in a wannabe time trial manner and try to beat my personal times on a little 25 mile loop I have.
I would love to find a small (5 or so riders) non-trickster riding group to hang with and do some rides. Most FG riders in my area are a little more lax than my style (more socializing... which is cool, but not my scene), so I just ride solo.
I could do the right thing and bring it to the track, where it belongs, though.
07-13-09 | 11:12 PM
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As others have said, these MASH guys deserve a lot of respect for what they do. Problem is that much as Roadie does not equal Lance Armstrong, Fixie-rider does not equal MASH guy (wearing spandex).
My only beef with fixie riders is with the group who totter around aimlessly at 10 mph with their aerospokes and bullhorns thinking they're the ****. All they do is block traffic and give other cyclists a bad name. I've actually had a couple yell/spit at me for wearing my team kit while out for a ride.
That being said, I really don't care what you ride as long as you ride. If you ride a pink Binachi Pista with Green/Blue Aerospokes in tight jeans and ride it like a bike instead of a fashion accessory, I'll have nothing bad to say about it.
My only beef with fixie riders is with the group who totter around aimlessly at 10 mph with their aerospokes and bullhorns thinking they're the ****. All they do is block traffic and give other cyclists a bad name. I've actually had a couple yell/spit at me for wearing my team kit while out for a ride.
That being said, I really don't care what you ride as long as you ride. If you ride a pink Binachi Pista with Green/Blue Aerospokes in tight jeans and ride it like a bike instead of a fashion accessory, I'll have nothing bad to say about it.
Spitting/Blocking traffic isn't cool, but there's nothing wrong with trying to look hot.
Let's try not to group "those guys" (in this case being fixed urbanites) completely together.
I know of atleast one guy around here that consistently wins crit practice (amazing sprint), rides respectfully and rides a fixed gear with hipster style during his work/school hours. He totally looks the part.
07-13-09 | 11:32 PM
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There ain't nothing wrong with stylin Maus.
Spitting/Blocking traffic isn't cool, but there's nothing wrong with trying to look hot.
Let's try not to group "those guys" (in this case being fixed urbanites) completely together.
I know of atleast one guy around here that consistently wins crit practice (amazing sprint), rides respectfully and rides a fixed gear with hipster style during his work/school hours. He totally looks the part.
Spitting/Blocking traffic isn't cool, but there's nothing wrong with trying to look hot.
Let's try not to group "those guys" (in this case being fixed urbanites) completely together.
I know of atleast one guy around here that consistently wins crit practice (amazing sprint), rides respectfully and rides a fixed gear with hipster style during his work/school hours. He totally looks the part.
I'm just a bit sick of having the bike plans in San Francisco stalled because a select few idiots (including the roadies running lights and stop signs) have managed to piss off enough drivers/residents. A self-proclaimed "world class city" should have bike paths that aren't just afterthoughts to satisfy the letter of the law.
07-13-09 | 11:43 PM
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The grouping wasn't on what they were wearing or anything but how much (or little) they ride. I know hipster types who ride much more than I do. I'm sure if they made the transition to gears and racing, they'd kick my ass too.
I'm just a bit sick of having the bike plans in San Francisco stalled because a select few idiots (including the roadies running lights and stop signs) have managed to piss off enough drivers/residents. A self-proclaimed "world class city" should have bike paths that aren't just afterthoughts to satisfy the letter of the law.
I'm just a bit sick of having the bike plans in San Francisco stalled because a select few idiots (including the roadies running lights and stop signs) have managed to piss off enough drivers/residents. A self-proclaimed "world class city" should have bike paths that aren't just afterthoughts to satisfy the letter of the law.
I just noticed your location. Do you ever go by velo culture? It's been a while since i've been there but it was certainly always nice in the eye-candy department.
Adam's Avenue bikes?
I recently did a cat4 RR with a guy in full Adam's Avenue kit that was kicking my ass on the 5' climb each lap and I weight 145! Big guy too nonetheless.
I thought only hipsters went to AA bikes. Maybe he is a hipster?
07-13-09 | 11:44 PM
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A woman cyclist, Emily O'Brien did the PBP 1200 km under 80 or 90 hrs on a fixed gear, self supported, sleeping gear. etc. So the MASH guys did the ToC but they slept and rested after each stage. This woman slept in wet ground (hardly ) and puked some.
https://sheldonbrown.com/pbp-emily-obrien.html
https://sheldonbrown.com/pbp-emily-obrien.html
