What does a headset do?
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Where is my headset located?

I honestly don't know this...I'm looking for one on my bike but all I see is stem, steerer, and a cap with a socket screw that goes into a stamped star-shaped nut of some kind. Is that the headset?
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it's the bearing assembly that allows you to steer the handlebars.
they're hidden campagnolo style on a caad9
they're hidden campagnolo style on a caad9
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Does the fact that the CAAD9 has an integrated headset make it easier to work on that area, because the stuff doesn't fall out all over the place? i.e. changing stems, forks stuff like that?
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Headsets are the new hype item. The pushy salesman at the LBS will tell you that you absolutely have to have a headset. Elitists will look down their noses if you deign to ride their bike paths on a bike without a headset. But here's the dirty little secret: a headset is just wasted weight. Sure it's a little extra bling, but it's also a little extra mass - remember, "chrome don't get you home." Headsets don't make you go ANY faster! They provide no propulsive force! Next time you are out shopping for a bike, and they start going on and on about the headset, RUN don't walk away...
"What does a headset do?" NOTHING! Except feed the smugness of elitists and drag down the speed of suckers.
"What does a headset do?" NOTHING! Except feed the smugness of elitists and drag down the speed of suckers.
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Phantoj.. although I agree with you on road bikes, being able to run a larger steerer on a mountain bike is a pretty significant advantage. Reducing flex in the fork and providing a larger bearing surface to spread out the force especially downhill.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
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headsets aren't subject to the same loads hubs go through, so lose the loose bearings and get a retainer or cartridge.
hidden.
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Headsets are the new hype item. The pushy salesman at the LBS will tell you that you absolutely have to have a headset. Elitists will look down their noses if you deign to ride their bike paths on a bike without a headset. But here's the dirty little secret: a headset is just wasted weight. Sure it's a little extra bling, but it's also a little extra mass - remember, "chrome don't get you home." Headsets don't make you go ANY faster! They provide no propulsive force! Next time you are out shopping for a bike, and they start going on and on about the headset, RUN don't walk away...
"What does a headset do?" NOTHING! Except feed the smugness of elitists and drag down the speed of suckers.
"What does a headset do?" NOTHING! Except feed the smugness of elitists and drag down the speed of suckers.
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I assumed it was a direct take-off (with the appropriate words changed out) of some other post. It gets the cynical, anti-salesman style exactly correct but takes it to the absurd extreme of suggesting you don't need a headset to ride a bike because it's just bling.
For what it's worth, I laughed.
In a roundabout way it reminded me of this post:
I am new: stupid question
"Is it smart to use loctite from prevent my pedal from floating/spinning?"
For what it's worth, I laughed.
In a roundabout way it reminded me of this post:
I am new: stupid question
"Is it smart to use loctite from prevent my pedal from floating/spinning?"
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Also refers to the angle of the contact bearing surface. Different angle than Aheadset/Cane Creek style.
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That picture is nice, but somewhat amusingly excludes the most important part of the headset... the bearings.
It looks like it's supposed to be showing a cartridge headset with the bearings pressed in, but that's not so easy for a reader to understand as a cup-and-cone headset, in my opinion, where you actually see the moving parts.
Wikipedia's drawing of a threaded cup-and-cone headset may be easier to understand:
It looks like it's supposed to be showing a cartridge headset with the bearings pressed in, but that's not so easy for a reader to understand as a cup-and-cone headset, in my opinion, where you actually see the moving parts.
Wikipedia's drawing of a threaded cup-and-cone headset may be easier to understand:
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those are all great, but they're not hidden headsets.

https://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=68

https://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=68
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Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
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Basically, there are two big variations on headsets; threaded and threadless. Threaded is the old style, where the stem is an "L" shaped piece that disappears into the headtube of the bicycle frame. Threadless is the new style. There are a couple variations on the threadless style (hidden, integrated, etc) that were designed to save a few grams over the other variations.






Too much coffe this morning, I guess.

