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Old 07-15-09, 08:54 PM
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Math Fail: Cyclocomputer Wheel Circumference

I'm artist, I'm tired and I suck at math. My brain is just not computing at the moment.

So I have a new Cateye computer. I'm setting up the wheel circumference. I measure it. The computer asks for the measurement in centimeters, not millimeters. My measured number does not come out to a round number, so I need to round up or down.

So this got me thinking... either way my computer's calculations will be inaccurate.
If I round DOWN, will that make the computer think I'm going faster or slower than I'm really going?
And how inaccurate are we talking? Let's say half a centimeter... what will that do to the speed measurement? Or mileage measurement?


And before you even have the chance, let me help you out ---> :facepalm:
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If you round up, the computer will think you're going faster than you really are...but not by much.
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Round to the nearest cm?
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just put in 210 and go with it.
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700 x 23 = 209/210 cm
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Originally Posted by fosmith
just put in 210 and go with it.
Or he can put in 211 and get a .5% speed increase!
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For a road bike it's going to be somewhere around 210-211 cm. If you are one half cm off, that is about 1/4 of one percent. Absolutely meaningless. The difference between 20 mph and 20.05 mph.

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I have my garmin set to auto, and it varies from 2088 to 2100. I don't lose much sleep over that though.
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Or just measure the diameter of the wheel and tire and multiply by 3.1416.
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Originally Posted by Kerlenbach
Or just measure the diameter of the wheel and tire and multiply by 3.1416.
all that number cipherin' is hard.
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Originally Posted by cooker
For a road bike it's going to be somewhere around 210-211 cm. If you are one half cm off, that is about 1/4 of one percent. Absolutely meaningless. The difference between 20 mph and 20.05 mph.
Exactly what i needed to know. My 25's were measuring about 210.5
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did you measure your rollout on level ground while sitting on the bike? tires compress a bit ya know...
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I've done several 1km on-the-bike roll-outs on marked velodromes, and have found that 208 is most accurate for Cateyes; 209 at the most. I'm 190lb, if that makes any difference. 23mm tyres

Either way, 1cm doesn't make much difference.
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And that is why you should get a Garmin.
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Originally Posted by camhabib
And that is why you should get a Garmin.
Because when you really want accuracy to the nearest cm you should use GPS
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OP use 190 to 200 cm. Cycling is about suffering and this will aid your self loathing.

Or use the BF standard range of 250-400cm, then you can post "I cycled 15,000 miles this summer at an average speed of 37 mph" threads.
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Originally Posted by Kerlenbach
Or just measure the diameter of the wheel and tire and multiply by 3.1416.
Just round pi to 3 - that'll do ya.... :ducks:
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Originally Posted by rollin
Just round pi to 3 - that'll do ya.... :ducks:
That's probably fairly accurate since computers can lose precision on floating point numbers anyway.
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https://www.cateye.com/sites/cateye/u...T400v1_E-1.pdf

Bottom right of the first page.
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Originally Posted by Creakyknees
did you measure your rollout on level ground while sitting on the bike? tires compress a bit ya know...
Yup, that's why I never just go by the charts listed in the computer instruction manuals.
My 25mm Conti Gatorskins measured out to about 82.875 inches.
So i just put in 211cm which is what the manual recommended anyway.
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Originally Posted by d2create

So this got me thinking... either way my computer's calculations will be inaccurate.

What do you really want to know about your distance and how accurate is accurate enough?
I don't really care if I'm doing 21.22 or 21.24 miles an hour at any given moment in time.

For me, I'd like the mileage markers on my century ride sheets to match up so when it says "turn left at mile 73.2" I'd like my odometer to read pretty close to that number when I get there. So setting my computer off of a measured mile or a known LONGER distance makes a lot more sense to me than trying to measure your tire circumference at whatever pressure and whatever weight you want to use down to four digit precision. Ask a dozen people on the ride at that distance what their readings are and you'll see a disparity range of at least a mile and they'll all swear their own reading is the most accurate.

But if you're really concerned about that 0.5 cm precision that you can't get - you can always use two magnets on opposite spokes and divide your circumference reading in half.
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott
What do you really want to know about your distance and how accurate is accurate enough?
I don't really care if I'm doing 21.22 or 21.24 miles an hour at any given moment in time.
That was my main question/concern... how off will the measurement be, and apparently it is a VERY tiny amount.

I'm with you though, I would like very accurate mileage results.
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