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Old 07-23-09, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Dion Rides
As I browse through this forum, I've really realized how NOT serious I am compared to to others on here. I lay down about 100-150 miles per week of riding, and that doesn't include my off-road excursions, BMX flatland trick riding (which I LOVE since 1987, and not half bad at), and beach cruiser getaways wearing flip-flops and a low brow ball cap. It's a great experience rolling/spinning/balancing on one wheel on a 20" bike one day and going for a road ride the next day.

I don't train for anything. A lot of people on here talk about training, and there's nothing I have to prep for, get ready for or work towards... and my riding goals are decided either before, 5 min. into the ride or an hour into the ride - or never at all. Sometimes I just open the garage door and start pedaling and see what happens. Sometimes it turns into an all day event, sometimes it turns into 30 min.

I have a triple crankset because I'm not proud enough to say that a granny gear does come in handy at times.

My Surly Pacer is 22lbs. of steel and happiness, not 16 lbs of carbon fiber - although I've owned that type of machinery before. I can bunnyhop stuff with it, although I try not to if not necessary. I can ride fast, but sometimes take it down so I can see and enjoy the scenery where I live.

I don't ride in groups, have a team kit, or have ever been in a paceline except maybe when I rode a supported event, by accident.

My only true purpose of riding a bicycle, is to ride a bicycle. If you're a racer or have cycling specific goals - that's awesome. But I've realized that if you just point your bike and start pedaling, all the things that people seem to desire as a result of cycling (weight loss, speed, endurance , power, climbing ability, etc) just comes.

I'm not a serious road rider.
After trying out some time in the racing scene, I came to the same conclusion that you did. I hated having to ride my bike to inconvenient levels (i.e. canceling other things for my training ride), just so I can get up ungodly early in the morning on a weekend to ride around in circles repeatedly. It didn't help that almost all of the training rides started only slightly later than the races did. Also didn't help that I, pretty much, could not have a life throughout that whole process...

Some people love the rush from racing and crushing souls; I did not. However, I did love the pain and suffering that came from trying to keep up with people, or just going hard on your own for a while. I still care about my weight and diet, and I will not stop talking as soon as someone starts talking about road bikes.
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Originally Posted by EventServices
I've skipped group rides to play golf instead.
I've skipped races to go to play tennis.
I drove two hours to a race once and decided not to race because it was a great day for other things.
I've gone full weeks without touching the bike.


It's like the board doesn't even know you anymore.
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Originally Posted by DataJunkie
I don't care what I am. I just am.
Get out of here with that deep enlightened kind of thinking this is BF!!!!

JK....



While it is important to retain a healthy mentality, the best feelings i've had on a bike have been after overcoming some serious mental turmoil and physical pain. Seriousness has it's payoff from time to time.

Seriousness and non seriousness are both parts to the whole. If you view either with aversion than you are missing out on all that life has to offer.


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The Anti-Shill and Self-Promotion Laws of 1993 prohibit me from mentioning the name here.

But if you find any post by Botto...

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Old 07-23-09, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MrCrassic
After trying out some time in the racing scene, I came to the same conclusion that you did. I hated having to ride my bike to inconvenient levels (i.e. canceling other things for my training ride), just so I can get up ungodly early in the morning on a weekend to ride around in circles repeatedly. It didn't help that almost all of the training rides started only slightly later than the races did. Also didn't help that I, pretty much, could not have a life throughout that whole process...

Some people love the rush from racing and crushing souls; I did not. However, I did love the pain and suffering that came from trying to keep up with people, or just going hard on your own for a while. I still care about my weight and diet, and I will not stop talking as soon as someone starts talking about road bikes.
I have the same experience from racing motorcycles. A practice day costs upward near $800 (track time, tires, maintenance, lodging, travel, etc.) and when you are a privateer, that's a big hunk 'o money. I started to not have fun. It was like, "Hey man... we're going to go out tonight, what's up?" "Oh, I have a race tommorrow". Sometimes I really didn't want to race.

The worst was when I was a competetive bodybuilder back in the 90's. "Hey man, let's go grab some Mexican food." *fast forward to the Mexican restaurant* "Yes, I'll take the shredded chicken ONLY, no sauce, please. And can I have a tall glass of ice water?"

But, like you said, I still watch what I eat and excercise everyday, but I do it because I enjoy it, not because I'm aiming to hang a piece of plastic gold in my office. If you're into that, that's cool! But, I just don't have that "killer instinct" for competition anymore.

I'd rather eat burritos and chase ducks on my bike.

When I say serious, I mean to the levels of some people's armchair racing stories on BF. I don't maintain an average speed of 25MPH because I just don't find it necessary for my enjoyment. Nor do I like to drop other riders, or have crazy stories about me being in a business suit on a 3 speed and dropping a Fred on his Cervelo. I do like to tackle hills and I especially love sprinting - but I also like to chill out. That's what I meant. I seems people have tall goals when it comes to cycling, and I just don't have that. My only goal is to have fun - and while having fun, ALL the health/athletic benefits come along with it. I think my work life is hectic enough, I don't want to make my recreational life hectic by stirring in too much seriousness.

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I'm new to biking and BF. I bought my bike at the beginning of the month and have enjoyed reading about all the hardcore gear and riders out there. My interests in cycling are more towards cross-training for long distance running and, maybe some duathlons if I get fast enough. I never expect to win a race, or even place, just consistently improve my cardio and PR's.

Since I started, I've improved my avg speed on the same 12 mile route from 12.5mph to 15.5mph, not sure 20's are in my future, but I can see how people get hooked on the speed. It's similar to distance running, run 3 miles you want to run 5, run 5 you strive for 10, and so on til you're running marathons.

Watching the TDF I can appreciate the amazing conditioning these riders have to keep up that level of exertion for 21 days. Maybe one day I'll want to trade in my hybrid for one of those faster road bikes but for now I'm just enjoying riding.
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Finally. Someone I can identify with here.
+1 (although I do admit I get a kick out of trying to beat my previous speeds)

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Originally Posted by Dion Rides
I have the same experience from racing motorcycles. A practice day costs upward near $800 (track time, tires, maintenance, lodging, travel, etc.) and when you are a privateer, that's a big hunk 'o money. I started to not have fun. It was like, "Hey man... we're going to go out tonight, what's up?" "Oh, I have a race tommorrow". Sometimes I really didn't want to race.

The worst was when I was a competetive bodybuilder back in the 90's. "Hey man, let's go grab some Mexican food." *fast forward to the Mexican restaurant* "Yes, I'll take the shredded chicken ONLY, no sauce, please. And can I have a tall glass of ice water?"

But, like you said, I still watch what I eat and excercise everyday, but I do it because I enjoy it, not because I'm aiming to hang a piece of plastic gold in my office. If you're into that, that's cool! But, I just don't have that "killer instinct" for competition anymore.

I'd rather eat burritos and chase ducks on my bike.

When I say serious, I mean to the levels of some people's armchair racing stories on BF. I don't maintain an average speed of 25MPH because I just don't find it necessary for my enjoyment. Nor do I like to drop other riders, or have crazy stories about me being in a business suit on a 3 speed and dropping a Fred on his Cervelo. I do like to tackle hills and I especially love sprinting - but I also like to chill out. That's what I meant. I seems people have tall goals when it comes to cycling, and I just don't have that. My only goal is to have fun - and while having fun, ALL the health/athletic benefits come along with it. I think my work life is hectic enough, I don't want to make my recreational life hectic by stirring in too much seriousness.
And so long as you feel that way, I think you've got the right idea.

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Originally Posted by Dion Rides
As I browse through this forum, I've really realized how NOT serious I am compared to to others on here. I lay down about 100-150 miles per week of riding,
I suspect that you're a whole lot more serious than most of the people here.
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Who let all these hippies out of the mountain biking forum?
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Originally Posted by EventServices
I train a lot, eat right, race a lot, spent a lot, train some more, and read a lot. Heck, I even wrote a book about it. But I still don't consider myself a serious Roadie.

It's all a matter of perspective.

I've skipped group rides to play golf instead.
I've skipped races to go to play tennis.
I drove two hours to a race once and decided not to race because it was a great day for other things.
I've gone full weeks without touching the bike.

But I wear the stuff, own the good stuff, yell in the paceline, and obsess over my weight.

Pick your level and go. Don't worry about where you fall in the continuum.
Slacker. I go to sleep on my bike and more often than not wake up pedaling; I've logged 3,000 sleeping miles on my trainer this year.
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I sleep on my side. It's not an efficient pedal stroke.
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Originally Posted by sneekyjesus
Who let all these hippies out of the mountain biking forum?
- You got that right!

The best/craziest vibe I ever got from cyclists was when I was a volunteer for my brother's race team at 24 Hours of Adrenaline. It was a pretty nasty 11 mi. course through Laguna Seca and they had a 4 man team. I was logging times for all the racers as they went in through the check point.

My brother's team is called "On The Couch" or "OTC" and their other team is "On The Couch II" or "OTCII". Of course, their pit area resembles a living room: sofa, coffee table, candles, etc. It was awesome.

The night before was insanity. The area across from us was throwing a HUGE party and some serious alcohol and loud music. Everybody was dressed like old Western days and the women were looking HAWT. We all went over to check it out, then my brother and I came back. I was, like, "They're going to RACE tomorrow after all the drinking?" and my brother answered "Carb loading, dude."

The next morning - everybody was up and chipper! They were all geared up and ready to go. Their times didn't reflect the craziness from the night before, either - not to say they would do better if they didn't party. About 16 hours into the race, all the OTC teamates, although looking very promising in the final standings STOPPED RACING. This was the last ride for one of their guys before he had to move away for work reasons. They ungeared, kicked up their feet and drank and partied the rest of the night with a DNF.

They do these crazy birthday rides with 2000 ft. of climbing and a rider rides up the day before to hide a 12-pack in the cold creek to wait for them at the top . They also do this crazy downhill run in winter storms where the requirement is one-speed coaster brake beach cruisers. No MTB's and lot's of beer. These guys are no slouches, though - they've all been racing since the 80's. Did I mention this was my OLDER brother?

I'm an occasional MTB'er, but my immediate surroundings suck for MTB'ing so I have to wait for the winter before the ground is nice. But my experience with MTB'ers was definitely interesting and taught me a lot that their is a lot more important things in life - like good friends.
 
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2000 ft of climbing is a bit on the flat side unless the route was something like 8 miles or so.
Sounds like a fun group.
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Originally Posted by DataJunkie
2000 ft of climbing is a bit on the flat side unless the route was something like 8 miles or so.
Sounds like a fun group.
Well, I have no idea I was just guessing. It's WAY the fuq up there, though.
 
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I would inflate that a bit.
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Originally Posted by DataJunkie
I would inflate that a bit.
Oh yeah, this is BF.


 
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Originally Posted by Dion Rides
As I browse through this forum, I've really realized how NOT serious I am compared to to others on here. I lay down about 100-150 miles per week of riding, and that doesn't include my off-road excursions, BMX flatland trick riding (which I LOVE since 1987, and not half bad at) . . .

IMHO your post reveals that you're actually a very serious rider who takes himself very seriously and wants to make a serious point to roadies about why you're better/cooler/more at one with your inner biking self than they are. Thanks for sharing.
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IMHO your post reveals that you're actually a very serious rider who takes himself very seriously and wants to make a serious point to roadies about why you're better/cooler/more at one with your inner biking self than they are. Thanks for sharing.
You got me!

I'm being serious.
 
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Originally Posted by dion rides
i'm being serious.
lol
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Originally Posted by Dion Rides
You got me!

I'm being serious.
Actually, you are being serious about non-seriousness.

You gotta be serious about something!

If it's not the actual riding, then your attitude towards other people riding works just fine, like in your case .
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