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Mark4 07-08-04 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by Nelf
My political affiliation has nothing to do with the fact that Fox News clearly has a right wing bias. It's fine if you agree with Fox News, but to argue it's fair and balanced is rediculous.

No news is without its bias... and even if you personally do the reporting, given freedom of speech/press, you will put your own *spin* on it (pun intended). Personally, I still enjoy that freedom... even if it means having to listen to or read stuff I don't always agree with. Also, I enjoy the freedom to get on my bike and leave the political stuff behind!

bac 07-09-04 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by AeroDog
With bullet-proof vest secured, I'll sat this: Fox News is the only main-stream media outlet that consistently presents both sides of the issues. Fair and balanced!

If you have to continually advertise yourself as "fair and balanced", you can be sure that you're not.

Laggard 07-09-04 09:46 AM


With bullet-proof vest secured, I'll sat this: Fox News is the only main-stream media outlet that consistently presents both sides of the issues. Fair and balanced! Why is it that cyclists tend to lean to the left politically? My other passion, aviation, is the exact opposite (with the exctption of Tom Daschle).
Don't know why that is either.
Anyone see that study that found that people who get their news primarily from Fox tended to have the wrong ideas about current events? e.g. Iraqis were involved in 9-11.

It could be said that no news is unbiased. i.e. what you choose to show and not show is bias in itself.

I listen mostly to the BBC though. They seem to do a good job at telling me what happened and nothing more.

duracann 07-09-04 09:50 AM

"It is a sport if some people are afraid to try it"-me

golfing must not be a sport then

baseball involes an object flying towards your face at ninety miles per hour-sport cause im scared


PS. anyone who thinks that cycling does not require coordination has never tried clipless pedal lol

Tree Trunk 07-09-04 11:19 AM

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Perhaps this little illustration will make all of you feel better -- a comparison between a professional cyclist and a professional football player.

MacMan 07-09-04 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Tree Trunk
Perhaps this little illustration will make all of you feel better -- a comparison between a professional cyclist and a professional football player.

LOL! I like the "sustained exertion time" stat!

fogrider 07-10-04 02:42 AM


Originally Posted by Thylacine
Satire and Sarcasm should be a mandatory subject in American schools. :rolleyes:

I agree, it is satire. And it is bad writing. This is not the first time someone has written cycling satire, but this is the first one that is so pourly written...and its not funny. and I'm not just saying it because I'm a cyclist...non of the other bits are funny. :(

belfast-biker 07-10-04 03:52 AM


Originally Posted by MacMan
LOL! I like the "sustained exertion time" stat!


Damn, if I lived in America I'd be a great "football" player.... ;)

khuon 07-10-04 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by Tree Trunk
Perhaps this little illustration will make all of you feel better -- a comparison between a professional cyclist and a professional football player.

I remember that article. It's from the Saturn magazine (we get it because we own a Saturn) of a few years ago and was written by a sport physiologist at the Univ. of Colorado or something like that who dealt with both the school's cycling team as well as their football team. The article is quite interesting. I should go dig through my stack of inadvertantly saved magazines (I admit I'm a packrat) to find it.

TrekRider 07-10-04 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by SteveE
TrekRider,

You should try reading the Washington Post, instead! ;)

Where even the sports is slanted to the left? No thanks.

TrekRider 07-10-04 04:31 AM

There can be no doubt that when physical condition, strength, endurance, ability to withstand pain, and, when you get right down to it, athelticism, cyclists are the best athletes in the world.

I have even had one guy at work argue that NASCAR drivers were athletes! I said what about jockeys? He said, sure. There is no accounting for the stupidity of the uninformed.

RegularGuy 07-10-04 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by TrekRider
I have even had one guy at work argue that NASCAR drivers were athletes!

NASCAR is not so much a sport as a high stakes video game.

I like to tell NASCAR fans that. It makes them apoplectic.

SteveE 07-10-04 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by TrekRider
Where even the sports is slanted to the left? No thanks.

Yeah, but which would you rather have? Well-written sports articles with a leftward slant or poorly written articles written by stupid, ignorant "cretins", as you so elegantly put it? :)

operator 07-10-04 05:50 PM


Running is the HARDEST sport that I have ever tried, because it is purely a training sport. Most sports you are naturally talented at, but in running you can be naturally talented and still suck because you have a horrible work ethic. In running you can't coast, or stop and take a break if you want to be good. Runners hard work also carrys over into their school work, for example our high school cross country teams top 5 guys all have 4.0's except one, who has like a 3.5. So, running is in fact a sport just like cycling
You have any real evidence to back up your claims than just anecdotal evidence? Good runners are good at school? What are you 10?


Most sports you are naturally talented at, but in running you can be naturally talented and still suck because you have a horrible work ethic.
There are so many things wrong with this sentence I don't know where to begin.

belfast-biker 07-10-04 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by rhchilipepper4
Running is the HARDEST sport that I have ever tried, because it is purely a training sport. Most sports you are naturally talented at, but in running you can be naturally talented and still suck because you have a horrible work ethic. In running you can't coast, or stop and take a break if you want to be good. Runners hard work also carrys over into their school work, for example our high school cross country teams top 5 guys all have 4.0's except one, who has like a 3.5. So, running is in fact a sport just like cycling.


Cheers to the previous poster.... I missed this little gem of a post until he replied to it!

"because it is purely a training sport" - ?!?

"in running you can be naturally talented and still suck because you have a horrible work ethic" - wow running is like, so unique.... :D

"in running you can't coast, or stop and take a break if you want to be good" - wow, more uniqueness...!

"Runners hard work also carrys over into their school work" - Yeah, I can see how pounding the streets will help with trigonometry.









Sir, you have brightened up my night with your... um, words. Cheers!

wabbit 07-10-04 10:11 PM

The guy is obviously being satirical. I've often wondered about this whole "cyclists aren't athletes" when I see photos of golfer John Daly with his big fat stomach! I agree with him there, but I can't see lumping cyclists with golfers and bowlers. I'd like to see any one of them ride a bike up Mont Ventoux. John Daly would die of a coronary!

hwttdz 07-10-04 10:36 PM

I thought the column was marginally funny. While we're defending cycling from those who don't understand I don't see how we can attack any sports. I mean how many of you have tried driving a nascar car. My speculation tells me that it doesn't require the greatest strength or endurance but it requires unflinching concentration for a really long time, nerves of steel, and lightning reflexes. Then you have say a hockey goalie, requires unflinching concentration for a really long time, nerves of steel, and lightning reflexes. It is not our place to say what is a sport and what is not a sport, I don't think I could even hit a golf ball, much less direct it towards a little hole 400 yards away.

About running or cycling or other endurance events requiring more training, I know soccer players who would go to school, play soccer all of lunch, or between classes, on the way to and from school, before school and after. We're talking like 6 hours a day, and at home they'd do ball drills. They'd also do the type of training that you'd do for running a 100m dash and a 3200m run, and they'd be good at both 11 point and sub 10 minutes.

1000t 07-11-04 02:29 AM

sport (spôrt, sprt)
n.
Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.

Cycling is the definition of competition, and a sport with such background has definately aquired some customs along the way.

That loser has lost all credability with his article.

TrekRider 07-11-04 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by SteveE
Yeah, but which would you rather have? Well-written sports articles with a leftward slant or poorly written articles written by stupid, ignorant "cretins", as you so elegantly put it? :)

One cretinous COLUMNIST does not make the entire sports page cretionous. He is not a reporter. Theis one columnist, who's job it is to create controversy - he slams the Redskins, the Orioles, the Wizards, the Caps, the mangement, the stadia, the fans..... - I usually read only to laugh.

belfast-biker 07-11-04 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by TrekRider
I usually read only to laugh.



Funny, I enjoy the rest of Fox News for the very same reason.

We're not so different, you and I.

dexmax 07-11-04 07:36 AM

i find it funny how a "sports expert" who watches baseball all day could comment so much about cycling.... :D

dexmax 07-11-04 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by wabbit
The guy is obviously being satirical. I've often wondered about this whole "cyclists aren't athletes" when I see photos of golfer John Daly with his big fat stomach! I agree with him there, but I can't see lumping cyclists with golfers and bowlers. I'd like to see any one of them ride a bike up Mont Ventoux. John Daly would die of a coronary!

golf is a sport... Golf involves a lot of skill.. How many of us mortals can get the drive stance right? having a big fat stomach doesn't mean your automatically inferior to super fit athletic type, right?
Bowling is also a sport.. Have you tried bowling for 8 hours a day, 6 days a week? -- Bowlers do practice -- and it does not "necessarily" involve beer.. I don't think even lance could do it... :D bowlers need the uppers..;):D i think..

I believe you can lump cyclists w/ bowlers and golfers.. they're all athletes :)

belfast-biker 07-11-04 11:14 AM

Can we all differentiate between athlete and sportsman/woman?

Thank you.

The best person in the world at darts is a top class sportsman. He could fire a dart through the eye of a needle at 20 paces.

He's at least 260lbs. An athlete, he is not.

2Rodies 07-13-04 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by Raiyn
I've said it before I'll say it again. Fox networks be it FoxNews, FoxSports, or FoxToilet Paper has little use to me.


I'll second that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brillig 07-13-04 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by TrekRider
I usually read only to laugh.

Which also describes why I read TrekRider posts. :D


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