Pro-Lite vs. Grammo vs. Neuvation
08-08-09, 01:26 PM
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Pro-Lite vs. Grammo vs. Neuvation
i am considering those 3 wheelsets.
https://rd.unrealcycles.com/catalog/item209.htm - Pro-Lite Gavia-T Wheelset (like them better than 2000g 50mm/90mm combo - https://rd.unrealcycles.com/catalog/item312.htm)
https://rd.unrealcycles.com/catalog/item193.htm - Grammo Viper 50T Wheelset Special
https://www.neuvationcycling.com/wheels.html - Neuvation c50 tubular
i am a triathlete, going to do halfsIM races (90km bike) i also race itu style and that is why i decided to go 50mm depth (saves 600g for prolite wheels).
i have neuvations that i got with my bike (khs flite 320 '05)
it's seems to me that i will have a very hard time deciding
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any advices and expieriences that you would kindly share with me would be appreciated
https://rd.unrealcycles.com/catalog/item209.htm - Pro-Lite Gavia-T Wheelset (like them better than 2000g 50mm/90mm combo - https://rd.unrealcycles.com/catalog/item312.htm)
https://rd.unrealcycles.com/catalog/item193.htm - Grammo Viper 50T Wheelset Special
https://www.neuvationcycling.com/wheels.html - Neuvation c50 tubular
i am a triathlete, going to do halfsIM races (90km bike) i also race itu style and that is why i decided to go 50mm depth (saves 600g for prolite wheels).
i have neuvations that i got with my bike (khs flite 320 '05)
it's seems to me that i will have a very hard time deciding
.any advices and expieriences that you would kindly share with me would be appreciated
08-09-09, 01:50 AM
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sooo many experienced bikers at this forum and no one can do some comparing for me...
08-09-09, 02:29 AM
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There are plenty of tossers on here all too ready with a smartarse response on any thread, but as soon as you ask a question that requires some actual knowledge, they all go missing. 
There's a good chance that all those wheels are fundamentally exactly the same. I know that Pro-Lite and Neuvation both use rims made by Gigantex, and the safety warning sticker on the Grammo rim also looks like a Gigantex label.
So, I reckon it comes down to spoke count, price, and what hubs you want. I'd bet that the Neuvation and Gramma hubs are both made by Joytech, and a lot of the Pro-Lites have Bolzano hubs, which I reckon also have Joytech internals, so.....perhaps it comes down to price and spokes.
You'd be surprised by the amount of wheels out there with Gigantex rims and Joytech hubs
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Ha! Good point! There are plenty of tossers on here all too ready with a smartarse response on any thread, but as soon as you ask a question that requires some actual knowledge, they all go missing.
There's a good chance that all those wheels are fundamentally exactly the same. I know that Pro-Lite and Neuvation both use rims made by Gigantex, and the safety warning sticker on the Grammo rim also looks like a Gigantex label.
So, I reckon it comes down to spoke count, price, and what hubs you want. I'd bet that the Neuvation and Gramma hubs are both made by Joytech, and a lot of the Pro-Lites have Bolzano hubs, which I reckon also have Joytech internals, so.....perhaps it comes down to price and spokes.
You'd be surprised by the amount of wheels out there with Gigantex rims and Joytech hubs
There are plenty of tossers on here all too ready with a smartarse response on any thread, but as soon as you ask a question that requires some actual knowledge, they all go missing. There's a good chance that all those wheels are fundamentally exactly the same. I know that Pro-Lite and Neuvation both use rims made by Gigantex, and the safety warning sticker on the Grammo rim also looks like a Gigantex label.
So, I reckon it comes down to spoke count, price, and what hubs you want. I'd bet that the Neuvation and Gramma hubs are both made by Joytech, and a lot of the Pro-Lites have Bolzano hubs, which I reckon also have Joytech internals, so.....perhaps it comes down to price and spokes.
You'd be surprised by the amount of wheels out there with Gigantex rims and Joytech hubs
i know that neuvation hubs use bearings that can be easily replaced or upgraded. I ve seen pictures of bolzano hub being taken apart and i didnt see those bearing there... how those hubs work ??
08-09-09, 08:55 AM
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Interesting: assuming these are the same as the ones you've been checking out, they use needle bearings, and 5 of them, as opposed to 4 in most rear hubs.
Sorry, but I don't know much more about them. I thought they were Joytech, coz the freehub and locknuts look exactly the same.
"Note the needle roller bearing
There are also two annular bearings in the freehub body
There are two annular bearings in the hub itself
The hub runs on a total of five bearings for strength, precision and durability"
https://www.pro-lite.net/content/wheels.shtml
I've heard a few bad things about the hubs, saying they tend to bust spokes at the hub end, like this:
"I have 2 friends who is driving these wheels. They just keep breaking the spokes. The spokes broke around the hub!"
https://weightweenies.starbike.com/fo...lzano&start=15
They don't have a great reputation around here, but it's mostly only anecdotal
Sorry, but I don't know much more about them. I thought they were Joytech, coz the freehub and locknuts look exactly the same.
"Note the needle roller bearing
There are also two annular bearings in the freehub body
There are two annular bearings in the hub itself
The hub runs on a total of five bearings for strength, precision and durability"
https://www.pro-lite.net/content/wheels.shtml
I've heard a few bad things about the hubs, saying they tend to bust spokes at the hub end, like this:
"I have 2 friends who is driving these wheels. They just keep breaking the spokes. The spokes broke around the hub!"
https://weightweenies.starbike.com/fo...lzano&start=15
They don't have a great reputation around here, but it's mostly only anecdotal
08-09-09, 09:33 AM
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If you take a look at Neuvation's website, you can download a pdf that shows how to take apart their hubs. The hubs are quite easy to take apart and don't really require much work to keep them running well.
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the ones i am looking at are at 600$-800$ since i am located in poland, and dont earn $$$ 200$ makes a difference
