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Old 09-21-09, 09:36 PM
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A date with patentcad goes something like this:

"ME ME ME ME ME MEEEE. Arent I great? But lets talk about you....what do you think about me??"
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Originally Posted by north of you
a date with patentcad goes something like this:

"me me me me me meeee. Arent i great? But lets talk about you....what do you think about me??"
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Originally Posted by Flatballer
Actually, I'm not infringing, because I'm not attempting to slingshot myself around the moon using gravity.

But if I ever decide to do this, I'll be sure to pay Boeing for the privilege.
You wouldn't want to do that anyways, as you'd slow down the rotation of the moon each time. Maybe the patent expires when the energy is eventually all used up.
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Originally Posted by Flatballer

The man loves the sound of his own voice. Didn't ya notice??
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Originally Posted by North of You
The man loves the sound of his own voice. Didn't ya notice??
Of course, but what does that have to do with anything?
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Originally Posted by StanSeven
As a former patent and trademark office employee, you don't have a clue.
Were you an examiner?
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Originally Posted by umd
Of course, but what does that have to do with anything?

Just something I noticed after consuming obscene quantities of Pernot and I felt I had to share that little bit of wisdom with the world outside. That is all....
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Originally Posted by North of You
Just something I noticed after consuming obscene quantities of Pernot and I felt I had to share that little bit of wisdom with the world outside. That is all....
So, what you are saying is you are really slow?
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I love the title of this thread. As if patents determine 'goodness' of a frame. We all know it's the stickers.
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Old 09-21-09, 10:29 PM
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I love the title of this thread. As if patents determine 'goodness' of a frame. We all know it's the stickers.
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Originally Posted by challaday
What I love is the idiocy of patent offices, which have granted patents on such things as:

1. Gravity (granted to Boeing)
2. Telemarketing (yes, the concept)
3. Any form of communication using an electrical signal, i.e. phone, cable tv, internet, or anything else in which a message is encoded into electrical charge
4. The use of any form of multimedia for the purpose of education (I was sued by the patent holder over this when I was head of curriculum for a college)
5. The sending of educational content over the internet (I was sued over this as well)

Mind you, in 4 and 5 above, it wasn't the content that was being argued via a copyright infringement lawsuit, it was the very act of using multimedia in an educational setting or educational content over the internet.

Check with your local school district or college, they have probably been sued over this. The patent holders send cease and desist letters which also suggest they would be willing to settle for a mere pittance, say $10,000 or so.
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Do you have links to 1 or 3?

I think Boeing has the patent on using the Moon's gravity to slingshot around it, not on gravity itself.

As for 3, I don't think anyone has a patent on the internet. Not that I can find anyway. If you mean something such as a protocol, like DNP3, then yes, there are patents on that, because it's not exactly common sense to make up a complicated communication protocol.
Originally Posted by pinwheel
that is not a patent on gravity
Since there are more tangents on this thread than in a high school geometry text book, I figured that I'd help the tangent count further. The techdirt link notes:
"...due to a ridiculous patent on the concept of a lunar flyby...that Boeing happens to own a patent on doing this sort of lunar flyby, despite the fact that you can't patent physics."
Another link in the techdirt article takes you to the Space Travel web site with an article on the same topic. That article notes:
"the patent is regarded as legal "trite", as basic physics has been rebranded as a "process", and that the patent wouldn't stand up to any significant level of court scrutiny and was only registered at the time as "the patent office was incompetent when it came to space matters"."
techdirt did provide this useful link to the Boeing patent.

If you look at the Boeing patent you will see that it is anything but "trite." Also, I'd be surprised if the US Patent Office was "incompetent" on space matter during the time period after 1998 (the year of the filing for the Boeing patent).

Originally Posted by Nessism
A friend of mine designed the rear suspension on the Ellsworth Truth and Dare bikes. Specialized sued him TWO times and LOST for patent infringement. My friend said it was well known at that time that Specialized was suing all the small companies with innovative rear suspension designs in the interest of either driving them out of the marketplace or sucking royalties out of them for their "patented" system. Specialized has deep pockets and a heavy handed mentality. F'um.
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Amen.

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Nice Mr Menchov. Here is someone passing on what is at best hearsay on a dispute between Ellsworth and Specialized and you feel like all of your previous complaints are justified -- close thread.

A recent interview with Tony Ellsworth on bikeradar.com makes no mention of the dispute and Tony notes that he has a patent on his suspension design that he got shortly after Horst Leitner got his patent -- the patent that Horst licensed to Specialized.

Look you can buy what you want for whatever reasons that you want. But don't use poorly researched "facts" to substantiate your opinions.
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