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umd 10-16-09 03:26 PM

wut

molecularman 10-16-09 03:28 PM

I have yet to fall after about three months of using them. I think that's only because I seem to accidentally unclip just before I tank it though.

umd 10-16-09 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Tsuru (Post 9868397)
hey umd, coming to any conclusions with your survey yet?

1) about the ratio I expected.
2) some people have a different concept of "most" than I do.
3) some people cannot accept that others have not fallen.
4) some people didn't understand the question

Ed Holland 10-16-09 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by umd (Post 9871163)
1) about the ratio I expected.
2) some people have a different concept of "most" than I do.
3) some people cannot accept that others have not fallen.
4) some people didn't understand the question

I cannot accept this.

(because I fell :()

Kneez 10-16-09 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by umd (Post 9870224)
And although I never had the old style clips, I believe that being able to trackstanding makes a big difference.

Probably so. With the old clips I made more of an effort to trackstand because I didn't want to go through the hassle unbinding and rebinding but now it doesn't seem to make too much difference. It's hard to remember the falls now but I know at least one was from a failed trackstand at a traffic light.

Tsuru 10-16-09 08:15 PM

So.... sis is in town and we were out riding around, she's tall (about 5' 10") so she fit enough on my Kapu for the kind of riding we were doing (easy peasy bike path and around town stuff). She doesn't have clipless shoes, so I put the clips on for her.

No problems until this one intersection, pretty busy, we found ourselves in a left turn lane with cars flying by and she could get out in time and fell to her right on to me, already had my left foot down but suddenly was being pushed over to the right! Ack! Alllllmost fell, got my right foot out juuuust in the nick of time, almost fell into oncoming cars.

*Phew*

urbanknight 10-16-09 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by umd (Post 9871163)
1) about the ratio I expected.
2) some people have a different concept of "most" than I do.
3) some people cannot accept that others have not fallen.
4) some people didn't understand the question

It takes a wise person to pay attention to conclusions that were not part of the original intention.



Originally Posted by Ed Holland (Post 9871314)
I cannot accept this.

(because I fell :()

Are you suggesting that there aren't any people who did not fall who can't accept the idea that there are people who did not fall? :D

sinclac 10-16-09 10:29 PM

Had the shoes and pedals a week and fell over today.:(

gnome 10-17-09 01:21 AM


Originally Posted by Tsuru (Post 9868397)
hey umd, coming to any conclusions with your survey yet?


Originally Posted by umd (Post 9871163)
1) about the ratio I expected.
2) some people have a different concept of "most" than I do.
3) some people cannot accept that others have not fallen.
4) some people didn't understand the question

So quick conclusions: The majority of people using clipless pedals will or have fallen due to failing to unclip from their pedals, usually just after learning. The rest have either suffered their pratfalls prior to the introduction of clipless pedals or are skilled/alert/lucky etc enough to have avoided falling due to failing to uncliping (bastiges :p).

Atol 10-17-09 01:55 AM

Shortly after watching UMD's "How to Trackstand" video he posted somewhere a while back, I tried to do it myself while clipped in and nearly fell.

mike047 10-17-09 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by umd (Post 9871163)
1) about the ratio I expected.
2) some people have a different concept of "most" than I do.
3) some people cannot accept that others have not fallen.
4) some people didn't understand the question

This my understanding of "most";
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/most

How would your understanding differ?

I have fallen 4 times in the last 10 weeks. I have not fallen since I got my new Shimano pedals.:D

Tsuru 10-17-09 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by Atol (Post 9873376)
Shortly after watching UMD's "How to Trackstand" video he posted somewhere a while back, I tried to do it myself while clipped in and nearly fell.

I DID fall.... fall over laughing! hardy har har. ;)

pharmboyrx 10-17-09 05:46 AM

I fell over my first time on a bike with clipless. I was test riding my OCR, pulled up to the LBS, and realized what was about to happen. All I could think is "you scratch it you bought it!!" Totally sacrificed the body on that one.

umd 10-17-09 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by pharmboyrx (Post 9873512)
I fell over my first time on a bike with clipless. I was test riding my OCR, pulled up to the LBS, and realized what was about to happen. All I could think is "you scratch it you bought it!!" Totally sacrificed the body on that one.

You used clipless pedals for the first time on a bike you were test riding?

:roflmao:

pharmboyrx 10-17-09 08:26 AM

It came with SPDs and I had some mountain bike shoes sitting around I had never used so I just threw them on and took it for a ride.

urbanknight 10-17-09 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by mike047 (Post 9873506)
This my understanding of "most";
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/most

How would your understanding differ?

I have fallen 4 times in the last 10 weeks. I have not fallen since I got my new Shimano pedals.:D

I know this has turned into a lengthy thread, but the discussion on that is a few pages back.

bretgross 10-22-09 09:12 PM

Not with clipless.
But a couple times about 30 years ago while riding with clips & straps!

Brookew 10-22-09 11:01 PM

I fell several times when I first started using clipless pedals. I fell because I forgot about the pedals and was braking for a stop. I have also fallen over after really long rides and my legs were too tired to do the correct motion to unclip (those were really tired legs on really long rides). I fell once on a steep hill - going really slow and didn't have time to unclip or something.

Barese Rider 10-23-09 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by gnome (Post 9873352)
So quick conclusions: The majority of people using clipless pedals will or have fallen due to failing to unclip from their pedals, usually just after learning. The rest have either suffered their pratfalls prior to the introduction of clipless pedals or are skilled/alert/lucky etc enough to have avoided falling due to failing to uncliping (bastiges :p).

I think one can draw the conclusion that at least half of those who fell were too stupid to try and learn how to use them before going out for a ride wearing them. I mean spending 10 minutes on a trainor learning how to clip and unclip aint a big deal.

Tsuru 10-23-09 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by Barese Rider (Post 9910437)
I think one can draw the conclusion that at least half of those who fell were too stupid to try and learn how to use them before going out for a ride wearing them. I mean spending 10 minutes on a trainor learning how to clip and unclip aint a big deal.

Yeah, sheesh, what a bunch of dumbasses for not buying a trainer when they went clipless, eh? And don't get me started on all the idiots who rode tons of miles clipless, but then had a situation where they didn't unhook in time! Gawd, they obviously are just stoopid and should just quit cycling now, eh?

sinclac 10-23-09 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by Barese Rider (Post 9910437)
I think one can draw the conclusion that at least half of those who fell were too stupid to try and learn how to use them before going out for a ride wearing them. I mean spending 10 minutes on a trainor learning how to clip and unclip aint a big deal.

I think one can draw the conclusion that you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

C5000 10-23-09 07:42 AM

the .5 mph fall is a rite of passage for road cyclists. My first was with clips and straps. Hasn't happened to me in 15 years though.

jdon 10-23-09 07:53 AM

You don't need a trainer. One foot on the ground, clip the other in and out. Got the hang of it? Good, go riding. I have no advice on which way to lean as you come to a stop. If you can't figure that out, stick to flat pedals.

SKYLAB 10-23-09 08:26 AM

My first clipless fall was on an mtb. I'd had the pedals for the entire summer and really had not had issues. Then in early July we rode over the Divide from Rollinsville and down in to Winter Park, taking some sweet single track and flying into town. Sure enough, we pulled up to one of the two stop lights in town and, as we wait for a group of young women to cross in front of us, I sloooowly ...fell.....over. Ended up laying under the bike still clipped in.

Tsuru 10-23-09 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by SKYLAB (Post 9910942)
My first clipless fall was on an mtb. I'd had the pedals for the entire summer and really had not had issues. Then in early July we rode over the Divide from Rollinsville and down in to Winter Park, taking some sweet single track and flying into town. Sure enough, we pulled up to one of the two stop lights in town and, as we wait for a group of young women to cross in front of us, I sloooowly ...fell.....over. Ended up laying under the bike still clipped in.

shoulda got on a trainer for 10 minutes, stupid poopy head.



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