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wheel questions : 2-way-fit / tubeless clincher

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Old 11-23-09, 08:31 AM
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wheel questions : 2-way-fit / tubeless clincher

2 way fit wheels, such as fulcrum racing zero's - how do these work, they can be used with a standard clincher tire and tube or a glued tubular and no tube?

what about tubeless clincher wheels? whats the story with these, where is the "air seal" made?

if anyone cares to shed some light on these, that would be great.

speaking of the racing zero: this is a damned good looking wheel

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They are wheels designed to be run with Tubeless tires. They are not disigned to have tubulars glued to them.

The two way fit is that you can run a tubeless tire (which is still a clincher) or a conventional clincher with a tube.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
They are wheels designed to be run with Tubeless tires. They are not disigned to have tubulars glued to them.

The two way fit is that you can run a tubeless tire (which is still a clincher) or a conventional clincher with a tube.
That is correct.
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The big question is will tubeless road tires catch on? Tire mfgs. seem to be the holdup at this point.
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The big question is will tubeless road tires catch on? Tire mfgs. seem to be the holdup at this point.
I don't see the benefit for road riding. MTB, CX, sure, because you want to run low pressures (below 30 psi) which clinchers just don't do reliably without getting snakebites.

At 100 psi, I don't see the advantages. Weight usually comes out about the same. They say tubeless rides better, but I don't know that I believe it.
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I'd like to try a tubeless set sometime. I've already got decently nice wheels, so if I get anything new, they'd have to be different somehow.
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Originally Posted by Flatballer
I don't see the benefit for road riding. MTB, CX, sure, because you want to run low pressures (below 30 psi) which clinchers just don't do reliably without getting snakebites.

At 100 psi, I don't see the advantages. Weight usually comes out about the same. They say tubeless rides better, but I don't know that I believe it.
I recently got a pair of Campagnolo Zonda 2-Way Fit wheels, and with the Hutchinson Fusion 2 tires on, the difference in ride quality is amazing compared to my previous Michelin Krylion/Vittoria tube setup (both at 100 psi). They ride like tubulars without the inconvenience of the glue. When I have a few more miles in, I will try to do a write-up and go into a little more detail.
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Originally Posted by fa63
I recently got a pair of Campagnolo Zonda 2-Way Fit wheels, and with the Hutchinson Fusion 2 tires on, the difference in ride quality is amazing compared to my previous Michelin Krylion/Vittoria tube setup (both at 100 psi). They ride like tubulars without the inconvenience of the glue. When I have a few more miles in, I will try to do a write-up and go into a little more detail.
Yes, please do the write-up.

For my Lynskey R330, I have Campy Eurus 2-way fit, purchased on the recommendation of a bike-shop owner friend of mine. He says tubeless is the way everything is going ... eventually; though it'll take some time to catch on everywhere. Right now, I'm using Challenge Criterium tires (aka open tubular, though they are clinchers). They are a really nice riding tire, although with a shorter life-span compared to others. I'd like to try tubeless eventually.

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Originally Posted by Flatballer
I don't see the benefit for road riding. MTB, CX, sure, because you want to run low pressures (below 30 psi) which clinchers just don't do reliably without getting snakebites.

At 100 psi, I don't see the advantages. Weight usually comes out about the same. They say tubeless rides better, but I don't know that I believe it.
Is this just random uninformed speculation? Perhaps you should try them before stating aloud that you think it's wrong?

For me, the big advantage would be a lot less worry of flatting (if you use a sealant.) The improved ride quality would be cool, too, but I haven't tried them so I don't know much about that.
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