College...ugh
#51
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There is no substitute for a steady paycheck. Your body can tolerate so much abuse, so it's easy to fit in enough riding time to keep you in perpetual hurt while attending school full time.
I don't think everyone needs a college education, but everyone does need a marketable skill. If you leave school, you still need a useful skill.
You don't get nearly as much discretionary time and the hours are much longer in my experience. College gives you WAY more flexibility with your time than real life.
I don't think everyone needs a college education, but everyone does need a marketable skill. If you leave school, you still need a useful skill.
You don't get nearly as much discretionary time and the hours are much longer in my experience. College gives you WAY more flexibility with your time than real life.
#52
Sounds like you aren't the most academic person in the world. That's fine, as many people aren't and never go to college and do just fine. However you can't dismiss the benefits of a degree. You should take classes at a junior (community) college and get a basic degree. It'll help when one day you realize you want a better job than flipping burgers for min wage.
Cycling is a hobby for you. You aren't going to be a pro racer, and you know that. Hobbies require money; cycling is the most cash-intensive sport I've ever seen and can possibly imagine. So you need a job.
One day you'll realize what you want to do with your life and will pursue that. Until then, stay in school and get some sort of a degree. It'll help in the future. You'll always enjoy cycling and you'll get better as a rider the more you ride, but ultimately it is just a fun thing to do.
Cycling is a hobby for you. You aren't going to be a pro racer, and you know that. Hobbies require money; cycling is the most cash-intensive sport I've ever seen and can possibly imagine. So you need a job.
One day you'll realize what you want to do with your life and will pursue that. Until then, stay in school and get some sort of a degree. It'll help in the future. You'll always enjoy cycling and you'll get better as a rider the more you ride, but ultimately it is just a fun thing to do.
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I'm 32. I'm in school. I race for my school. Life is good! I had the crap job. I was tired after work and didn't ride as much as I do as a student. Try to hang in there. I certainly am not inclined to take 16 hours. Do you have a cycling team at your school? If not, I bet you could make alot of progress in getting one.
If you leave school, you may be broke, financially frustrated for life, and more bad stuff. I say get loans (if you must), don't take 16 hrs, and enjoy what is there in front of you. School sucks, but I like it alot more than my construction job/past.
Good luck.
If you leave school, you may be broke, financially frustrated for life, and more bad stuff. I say get loans (if you must), don't take 16 hrs, and enjoy what is there in front of you. School sucks, but I like it alot more than my construction job/past.
Good luck.
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One more thought. It's very difficult, if not impossible, to survive on minimum wage. Never mind cycling - you'll be lucky if you have a roof over your head and food to eat. Minimum wage jobs serve a purpose in our society, but they are meant for people who are not the primary breadwinners in their household, such as teenagers living at home, or people with other sources of income, such as retirees. Basically, I just don't think the plan of making a living while flipping burgers is a viable option.
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So I am thinking about dropping out of college to commit to cycling full time with a minimum wage job (I don't have a job...yet). This is the last semester that my parents are supporting me in school and I am pretty burnt out with school. Heck, I already know I am going to flunk this semester because of the classes on my plate and I am demotivated (is that even a word? lol) at this point.
What do you guys think? I mean, college will ALWAYS be there (but the cost won't...crap). Plus cyclists careers are short lived but they lived the dream, know what I'm sayin?
Anyway, sorry for the rant. I'm just frustrated and clueless at this point in my life.
Thanks
And I know I will get some witty remarks
What do you guys think? I mean, college will ALWAYS be there (but the cost won't...crap). Plus cyclists careers are short lived but they lived the dream, know what I'm sayin?
Anyway, sorry for the rant. I'm just frustrated and clueless at this point in my life.
Thanks
And I know I will get some witty remarks

if you are unmotivated at the present, take a leave of absence & come back. lotsa people do it, even in the ivy leagues... for most, doing 40+hr/week of minimum wage job gets them perspective real soon. if there's deeper issues, then maybe seeing a psychologist would help.
#61
Consider Americorps.
I'm the last guy who should give you career advice. I'm 27 and have never actually had a career. I'm what most people would call a loser. Unlike you, I was super motivated for school. I got good grades and went on to grad school. Then, like you, I lost my motivation. I just fell out of love with what I was studying and decided to give a job a try. After all, I had a degree already. How bad could it be?
Unfortunately, my BS was in one of the liberal arts, so I wasn't qualified for much besides crappy sales jobs. I spent 1.5 years going from crappy job to crappy job until I finally got fed up. I packed up and went out west for 3 months of volunteer work. When that was over I applied for a year-long AmeriCorps program.
I'm not going to say AmeriCorps changed my life, but it gave me some time to sit back and think about my life. It sounds to me like this is exactly what you could use right now. If you do decide to return to school, you'll get a small scholarship (some schools match it) after you finish your term of service.
People are on the money when they say you need a marketable skill, and it really doesn't matter how you get it. I doubt you'll find a perfect dream job like being able to ride your bike all day, but you don't have to do something you completely hate, either. Try to find a happy place somewhere in the middle- doing a job you somewhat enjoy while making enough money to enjoy your time out of work, as well.
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Federal minimum wage is $7.25/hr. Work a standard forty-hour week and you gross $290. After taxes, you have even less in your pocket. Making that kind of money, a new set of tires will seem like a huge luxury...
#65
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Newsflash: you are worthless when it comes to a bicycle. You have no hope of making money at riding your bike.
However, with a degree, doors will open, and you will be able to de-"unmovitate" yourself and perhaps find something that will stir your passion and get your behind in gear.
You also sound mildly depressed... are you getting enough rest and decent nutrition? Hopefully the school dining-hall isn't tearing apart your insides.
However, with a degree, doors will open, and you will be able to de-"unmovitate" yourself and perhaps find something that will stir your passion and get your behind in gear.
You also sound mildly depressed... are you getting enough rest and decent nutrition? Hopefully the school dining-hall isn't tearing apart your insides.
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My head hurts after reading this..... If flunking out now... It has nothing to do with living your dream. I'm guessing you will flunk out at racing when that gets hard as well.
Or buckle down and finish what you started. You have more time for riding now than you will once in the work force.
Or buckle down and finish what you started. You have more time for riding now than you will once in the work force.
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Make friends with a music education major, it will make your life seem easier.
I'm taking 19 units, which is 11 classes. 4 of my classes are 3 units, and the remaining 7 units are all 1 unit classes which meet for 3 hours a week and require more work than all 4 of my 3 unit classes combined. Not to mention working two jobs on either side of going to classes.
And I have to find time to practice my instruments.
There, doesn't your schedule seem easier now?
I'm taking 19 units, which is 11 classes. 4 of my classes are 3 units, and the remaining 7 units are all 1 unit classes which meet for 3 hours a week and require more work than all 4 of my 3 unit classes combined. Not to mention working two jobs on either side of going to classes.
And I have to find time to practice my instruments.
There, doesn't your schedule seem easier now?
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Make friends with a music education major, it will make your life seem easier.
I'm taking 19 units, which is 11 classes. 4 of my classes are 3 units, and the remaining 7 units are all 1 unit classes which meet for 3 hours a week and require more work than all 4 of my 3 unit classes combined. Not to mention working two jobs on either side of going to classes.
And I have to find time to practice my instruments.
There, doesn't your schedule seem easier now?
I'm taking 19 units, which is 11 classes. 4 of my classes are 3 units, and the remaining 7 units are all 1 unit classes which meet for 3 hours a week and require more work than all 4 of my 3 unit classes combined. Not to mention working two jobs on either side of going to classes.
And I have to find time to practice my instruments.
There, doesn't your schedule seem easier now?
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[QUOTE=YOJiMBO20;10317889]Make friends with a music education major QUOTE]
Just because you have a high unit load doesn't mean that there is anything exceptionally difficult about being a music education major.
No disrespect at all for music education, all I am saying is that not all units are created equal.
IMO what sucks about your schedule is all of those 1-unit classes sucking hours weekly. Crappy.
Just because you have a high unit load doesn't mean that there is anything exceptionally difficult about being a music education major.
No disrespect at all for music education, all I am saying is that not all units are created equal.
IMO what sucks about your schedule is all of those 1-unit classes sucking hours weekly. Crappy.
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