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Old 03-07-10, 10:16 PM
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I Crashed.

I need some help with a problem I am having. Recently, I crashed while riding my bicycle down a hill I have descended at least 90 times. I was about 15 minutes into my ride when I was approach the bottom of the hill with a left to right curve. I was traveling approximately 20 - 25 mph. All of a sudden I felt my rear wheel sliding out from under me and the bicycle going down. The crash broke two of my ribs and induced a pneumothorax in my right lung. I have been riding for over 20 years and have in excess of 10,000 miles of experience. However, I cannot for the life of me figure out what happened. The roadway was slightly wet but no different then a dozen or so times before. I did not see any grease spots, although there was extensive sealant in the area of the crash from prior road repairs. I was riding on Specialized 700c-25 tires @ 120psi. Approximately 300-400 miles of wear. Any hypothesis on what caused this loss of traction?
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Taking the curve at a high speed.
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Did you flip out and brake?
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Pressures too high on tyres? ie too little contact patch

Just because you couldn't see an oil patch or so on after the fact doesn't mean that there wasn't a film of something down there.
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Old 03-07-10, 10:35 PM
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too high speed, too high tire inflation, too much lean, too much braking, turning weird, black ice, gravel, slick pavement (sealant), out of practice from winter, sand, wet pavement?
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evil road gnomes?
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was the road wet from the first rain in awhile? In this case there was likely oil on the road.

If the back tire was unweighted, and went over something slick as you were leaning it might have been enough to get it to break free. Hitting the rear brake in this circumstance just guarantees you'll continue the slide. When panic-stopping, which hand do you instinctively grab? If it's the right, you probably locked it when you sensed something amiss and then it was game over.
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Any chance you were passing over some painted road marker? Pedestrian crossing, turn lane arrow, etc?

Those things can be slick as crap where I live. Especially if they're wet at all.
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120psi might've been a bit much for the wet if you're not a pretty big guy.
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20 years and you've only ridden 10,000 miles???
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Originally Posted by umd
20 years and you've only ridden 10,000 miles???
More then average American. *shrug
Anyway I am with kudude tire probably lost a bit of traction you grabbed the brakes maybe not even realizing and well we know what happened next.
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20 years and you've only ridden 10,000 miles???
wow thats a whole 500 miles / year .

25c tires @ 120 psi is wayyy overkill
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not enough weight on your outside pedal
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Same thing happened to me a while ago on the way to school on my road bike. I went to do a sharp left handed turn and the back wheel hit those things that mark lanes and got some air and sent me into a slide. Thank goodness I hit the front brake and stopped the slide in someway, otherwise I was headed straight for a pole. Anyway, did you happen to hit one of those little marker thingys?
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak
More then average American. *shrug
It's just a funny thing to say... it seemed like he was trying to show how experienced he was...
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Hit the rear brake too hard? Rear wheel likes to lock up when traction isn't 100%
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Originally Posted by umd
It's just a funny thing to say... it seemed like he was trying to show how experienced he was...
Maybe he was just trying to say he wasn't some shlub out for a weekend ride?
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Originally Posted by rhinot
Maybe he was just trying to say he wasn't some shlub out for a weekend ride?
Well with 10k miles in 20 years it comes to 500 miles a year, 41 a month....
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Just help the guy out.

****.
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I think other people have it covered. I just thought it was an interesting thing to say, the way he said it. You guys are making a bigger deal out of it than I was.
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You crashed, **** happens when you party naked, stop looking for something to blame it on and don't do it again. Hope you heal up fast, sincerely.

Oh, and welcome to Bike Forums.
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Maybe braking at an inopportune time when some gravel was present.
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Given that he reckons it happened all of a sudden and he can't figure it out, I gather he wasn't on the brakes.
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As others have said - that's pretty high pressure for 25c's - maybe your wheel caught a stone? At high speed and tyre pressure that could flip your wheel. Falls happen - don't beat yourself up about it, you can never account for every eventuality and all it takes is a split second of lapsed concentration at the wrong time..?
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