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uknightedone 03-23-10 04:59 PM

Traditional geometry carbon frame suggestions, please!
 
I prefer traditional geometry and am looking for a frame with a top tube that is exactly level with the ground or slightly upward sloping. Most of the frames I have come across seem to be slightly downward sloping. I currently ride a 58cm Specialized Tarmac which fits me well, but I feel much more natural on bikes with traditional geometry. I would very much appreciate your suggestions. Thanks!

umd 03-23-10 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by uknightedone (Post 10567601)
I prefer traditional geometry and am looking for a frame with a top tube that is exactly level with the ground or slightly upward sloping. Most of the frames I have come across seem to be slightly downward sloping. I currently ride a 58cm Specialized Tarmac which fits me well, but I feel much more natural on bikes with traditional geometry. I would very much appreciate your suggestions. Thanks!

You realize that it doesn't actually affect the geometry, right?

Al Criner 03-23-10 05:15 PM

Calfee lugged carbon frames

uknightedone 03-23-10 05:25 PM

Yeah I realize that, sorry I didn't clarify why I felt better on traditional. it's the visual aspect for me. I like to look down and see a level tube. Downward sloping just doesn't look right to me and that gives me an less natural feeling on the bike.

loreley 03-23-10 05:36 PM

http://www.labicicletta.com/edatcat/...acemaster1.jpg

bmc?

uknightedone 03-23-10 05:38 PM

Thanks Al, lugged carbon was all I was aware of too, such as Calfee and Colnago, and they are beautiful, time proven frames, of course. I'm just curious as to what other options are on the market.

Carbon Unit 03-23-10 05:43 PM

Calfee. There is a 58 on eBay right now. You can transfer the warranty on a used Calfee which is something I haven't seen any other bike frame builders do.

Here is an Ebay auction

http://tinyurl.com/ygpsnnn

Here is a video review

http://tinyurl.com/yfmcz43

coasting 03-23-10 05:43 PM

http://www.freemanscycles.co.uk/imag...a_tpb_2009.jpg..

umd 03-23-10 05:47 PM

^^^

Fail

Grumpy McTrumpy 03-23-10 05:48 PM

Ridley makes some cross frames from carbon fiber that have straight top tubes.

coasting 03-23-10 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by umd (Post 10567802)
^^^

Fail

come on...only slightly off. still a damn pretty frame.

coasting 03-23-10 05:56 PM

i'll try again

http://www.labicicletta.com/edatcat/...llo_dogma1.jpg

coasting 03-23-10 06:00 PM

http://road.cc/content/feature/13033...ng-what-season

Bikelyst 03-23-10 08:17 PM

lol coasting. not a cf frame.

Jay Andriot 03-23-10 08:20 PM

Colnago

bobthib 03-23-10 08:28 PM

How is this?
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...0_side2100.jpg

WhyFi 03-23-10 08:46 PM

This top tube looks pretty level to me...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2773/...9705f949_o.jpg

:p

Actually, it looks like most of the Felts, with the exception of the Z-Series, are pretty horizontal.

lukasz 03-23-10 09:06 PM

Argon 18 frames are pretty close to level, I think.

383 03-23-10 09:16 PM

Colnago is the only name that really comes to mind.

http://aroadbike4u.com/images/librar..._wxib_07_m.jpg

That's a C50

Caad 8 03-23-10 09:21 PM

Like this?

http://cdn.assets.colnago.com//sites...black_SIDE.jpg

Taqi 03-23-10 09:35 PM

Talk to Nick Crumpton

alpha_bravo 03-23-10 09:48 PM

Supersix FTW

http://www.cannondale.com/usa/usaeng...ourceImage.jpg

nitropowered 03-24-10 06:29 AM

The Colnago EPS comes in both sloping and traditional

Felt AR and F series are level

border reiver 03-24-10 06:34 AM

Velo Vie

PhilNYC 03-24-10 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by uknightedone (Post 10567723)
Yeah I realize that, sorry I didn't clarify why I felt better on traditional. it's the visual aspect for me. I like to look down and see a level tube. Downward sloping just doesn't look right to me and that gives me an less natural feeling on the bike.

I agree with you on the looks. But one quick thing to note is that "compact" geometries (ie. sloping top tubes) actually lower the center of gravity of the frame, so it does affect the handling of the bike (beyond the usual things like being stiffer and slightly lighter)...


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