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Old 04-06-10, 03:11 PM
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'Good' bottom brackets

I was looking to perhaps change my bottom bracket which is currently a 4500 Tiagra to something better. Any ideas?

What makes a good bottom bracket besides weight, smoothness and stiffness(?)
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Why do you want to change it? What are you hoping to improve?
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I'm not sure really, thing is i'm considering changing from tiagra to ultegra and i was thinking if i should change the BB as well if it will give me some speed gains.
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It won't give you speed gains. Replace it if it's worn out.
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speed gains from a new bottom bracket.

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speed gains from a new bottom bracket.


My stem improved my average speed by 2.6mph.
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My stem improved my average speed by 2.6mph.
i'll up you one:

my "malfunctioning" computer improved my average speed by 10mph. try to catch me on your orbea when im using my malfunctioning computer
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Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich
i'll up you one:

my "malfunctioning" computer improved my average speed by 10mph. try to catch me on your orbea when im using my malfunctioning computer
awesome.
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Originally Posted by teokiatuan
I was looking to perhaps change my bottom bracket which is currently a 4500 Tiagra to something better. Any ideas?

What makes a good bottom bracket besides weight, smoothness and stiffness(?)
With few exceptions, current bottom brackets are maintenance items like chains. You ride it until it wears out, then you toss it and put in a new relatively cheap one. About the only exceptions are (1) bottom brackets with ceramic bearings which are too expensive to trash; and (2) Chris King units which are designed to be cleaned, regreased and reused. I got a Chris King model to replace my worn out Shimano BB. It has the usual impeccable Chris King quality and is just smooth as butter without much resistance. On the other hand, it cost 4x or more what a Dura Ace disposable BB would cost, so it really does fall into the Bike Bling category.

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Originally Posted by irablumberg
With few exceptions, current bottom brackets are maintenance items like chains. You ride it until it wears out, then you toss it and put in a new relatively cheap one. About the only exceptions are (1) bottom brackets with ceramic bearings which are too expensive to trash; and (2) Chris King units which are designed to be cleaned, regreased and reused. I got a Chris King model to replace my worn out Shimano BB. It has the usual impeccable Chris King quality and is just smooth as butter without much resistance. On the other hand, it cost 4x or more what a Dura Ace disposable BB would cost, so it really does fall into the Bike Bling category.

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Great reply, thanks!

I wonder though, how much the smoothness really does for the ride. Oh well, we'll see when i have to change it.
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Originally Posted by irablumberg
With few exceptions, current bottom brackets are maintenance items like chains. You ride it until it wears out, then you toss it and put in a new relatively cheap one. About the only exceptions are (1) bottom brackets with ceramic bearings which are too expensive to trash; and (2) Chris King units which are designed to be cleaned, regreased and reused. I got a Chris King model to replace my worn out Shimano BB. It has the usual impeccable Chris King quality and is just smooth as butter without much resistance. On the other hand, it cost 4x or more what a Dura Ace disposable BB would cost, so it really does fall into the Bike Bling category.

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are wheel hubs disposeable like that too? i've only ever used serviceable shimano cup n cone, so i wonder about a cartridge bearing wheel. do they really expect you to replace cartidges?
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Originally Posted by coasting
are wheel hubs disposeable like that too? i've only ever used serviceable shimano cup n cone, so i wonder about a cartridge bearing wheel. do they really expect you to replace cartidges?
Yup. Not as hard as you might think, either -- if a stoner bike mechanic can change them, anyone can.
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