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lpolliard 04-07-10 11:57 AM

Another useless right foot left foot thread.
 
This is something you should try. It is a good thing to know your limitations. On this mornings ride while thinking about some of the BF topics from yesterday, I wanted to know if I could un-clip both inside and outside with both feet. Of course we all have are strong directions mine are un-clip inside with my left foot first and then un-clip outside with my right. I am able to easily un-clip inside with my right foot but it is a struggle to un-clip outside with my left. I am right handed. I don't know if this will be useful information in the future but it is interesting...at least to me.

crazytxmom 04-07-10 12:19 PM

Hmmm...can't say as I've ever even considered that there was an "other" way. I'm right handed also, but un-clip outside with both feet. I usually only un-clip with the left foot unless I'm getting off the bike. Next ride out I'll have to try un-clipping inside.

Hot Potato 04-07-10 03:00 PM

Heel moves out to unclip on both sides. Right handed, always unclip the right foot for a stop. I can re-engage the cleat more naturally with my right foot (meaning I don't have to look or struggle) but do have to avoid the chainring tattoo.

coasting 04-07-10 03:03 PM

http://talkpractice.files.wordpress....09/05/yawn.jpg

bismillah 04-07-10 03:07 PM

Cool story

coasting 04-07-10 03:37 PM

i suspect some childhood trauma may be an influence.

RacerOne 04-07-10 04:21 PM

After reading this I think I've figured out why so many people fall with clipless.

jsmonet 04-07-10 04:51 PM

wait... unclip.... inward? O_o tell me i'm reading this wrong and you're not flicking your ankle toward spinning spokes/chain.

lpolliard 04-07-10 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by jsmonet (Post 10638276)
wait... unclip.... inward? O_o tell me i'm reading this wrong and you're not flicking your ankle toward spinning spokes/chain.

You un-clip at the twelve o'clock so the only thing you will hit is your seat stay. I have been doing this for years and never had a problem. Sometimes I worry that I will wear a grove in my CF. I think I will do an inspection right now.

BillyD 04-07-10 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by coasting (Post 10637787)

Good one.

lpolliard 04-20-10 05:19 PM

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Do this or end up like umd...all turtled on his ass.

umd 04-20-10 05:21 PM

Speedplays don't uncip in

lpolliard 04-20-10 05:23 PM

^^^ Damn you are quick.

datlas 04-20-10 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by lpolliard (Post 10638732)
You un-clip at the twelve o'clock so the only thing you will hit is your seat stay. I have been doing this for years and never had a problem. Sometimes I worry that I will wear a grove in my CF. I think I will do an inspection right now.

FWIW that is how I have always done it, since I started clipless on the first generation Look pedals circa 1986. Just feels easier that way to me.

(edit: I have a different bike that I use as a commuter and for awhile was using a frame pump mounted along the seat stay...but when unclipping I kept knocking the stupid pump out with my heel! So I have relocated it.)

KiddSisko 04-20-10 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by RacerOne (Post 10638163)
After reading this I think I've figured out why so many people fall with clipless.

Right. Too much thinking.

lpolliard 04-20-10 05:24 PM

And yes they do...especially if you have zero float.

Edit: I sport Speedplay Zeros.

umd 04-20-10 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by lpolliard (Post 10699641)
And yes they do...especially if you have zero float.

Edit: I sport Speedplay Zeros.

They can't possibly unclip in, the plate hits the spindle.

http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/rev...in%20cleat.jpg

lpolliard 04-20-10 06:14 PM

I do it all the time.

umd 04-20-10 06:16 PM

I'd like to see that.

umd 04-20-10 06:22 PM

I did some experimentation, and if set so that it is fully (or possibly nearly) heal out with zero float, I could release it in. BUT, if you have it set to be neutral or heel in, then the spindle will hit the plate. It's not just a matter of being hard to do, it just physically cannot rotate enough to release. I have mine centered with zero float, so mine cannot release in.

AngryScientist 04-20-10 06:28 PM

some of you definitely "think" too much about clipping in and out. after a while using clipless pedals, it became second nature to me, i dont think about it at all. - like driving a stick shift car, i dont ever think: "coming to a stoplight, dont forget to clutch, dont forget to clutch, dont forget to clutch....stall"

Nachoman 04-20-10 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by lpolliard (Post 10699602)
Do this or end up like umd...all turtled on his ass.

Classic photo! I'm going to have to pop into that get your laughs in thread and see how this turned up.

lpolliard 04-20-10 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by umd (Post 10699929)
I did some experimentation, and if set so that it is fully (or possibly nearly) heal out with zero float, I could release it in. BUT, if you have it set to be neutral or heel in, then the spindle will hit the plate. It's not just a matter of being hard to do, it just physically cannot rotate enough to release. I have mine centered with zero float, so mine cannot release in.

Okay...I see what you are saying. If you are set up with any toe-out at all then clipping out heel-in may not be possible with Zeros. I pedal exactly neutral, no toe-out or toe-in and I am able to unclip heel-in with both feet.

You are the man!

umd 04-20-10 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by lpolliard (Post 10700519)
Okay...I see what you are saying. If you are set up with any toe-out at all then clipping out heel-in may not be possible with Zeros. I pedal exactly neutral, no toe-out or toe-in and I am able to unclip heel-in with both feet.

I have mine completely neutral, the spring exactly centered between the screws and 0 float. After your post I experimented with several settings, and the only way I could get it to release in was if was set extremely toe-in. It may matter which pedal model you have too, I don't think all the spindles are the same size. Since it's the spindle that is getting in the way, a narrower spindle may do the trick. I have the Ti zeros.


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