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Sidi foot pain- numb toes, throbbing feet after 30 mins

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Old 04-08-10, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by deep_sky
Well, for me, my foot would slide forward into the too-big toebox, then slide backwards on the back-end of the stroke into the too-big heel cup. I do need arch support as well, as I expect most people need at least some support.

It just sounds like the OP is strangling his feet because he thinks that it's necessary to keep the shoes on securely.

My straps and buckles are loose on the Genius 5, ergo 1, genius 6.6... I was only describing how loose the Genius 5 Megas were...
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Originally Posted by adimp
What shoes did you go to after the Ergo 2's?
For me the problem with Sidis was they were far too narrow for my wide feet and I refused to pay $500-600 to hunt down a pair of extra wide Ergo 2's so I just went back to my cheap $99 Shimano road shoes and they've been working really well just waiting to find a good deal on the carbon soled version.
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Originally Posted by topflightpro
I also suggest you consider another brand of shoes.

I too had similar problems with Sidis. I tried everything, moving the cleats, tightening the straps, loosening the straps, different sizes, megas and non-megas, but nothing worked. My feet would go numb and I had a giant, painful callous form on one foot.

I switched to Specialized Pro Carbon in a wide width almost two years ago. They fit much better and I do not have the numbness problems and the callous has since gone away.

Good luck.
Thanks for the advice. Do you happen to have high arches too? I'm thinking that my high arches cause me to use the balls of my feet which might cause the numbness. I think I may try the Specialized as you suggest. thx
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Adimp the sidis mega arent for you, thats a fact. Adidas has been makings cycling shoes for around 25 years if not more. Hard to say if they recommend the shoes for the type of feet u have. If i manufacture shoes i could recommend shoes even for horses and chickens, but they worked for Bloomieracer.

I do have a pair of adidas Adistar RD Comp in 43, at least those ones run narrow compared to carnac. Rode them 3 times, thats it. A nice sculpture now
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Originally Posted by fauxto nick
For me the problem with Sidis was they were far too narrow for my wide feet and I refused to pay $500-600 to hunt down a pair of extra wide Ergo 2's so I just went back to my cheap $99 Shimano road shoes and they've been working really well just waiting to find a good deal on the carbon soled version.
Cool.. thanks. The guy at my Performance Bike recommended not skimping on the shoes since they last for years and will save upgrading in the future. I don't disagree with his reasoning, but I think I'll move to a different brand.

Or maybe it's still just my pedaling mechanics??? Could it possibly be the Look pedals and cleats?
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Adimp thats why i asked you before if your pedals have floating. Some people need the floating.
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Originally Posted by adimp
Cool.. thanks. The guy at my Performance Bike recommended not skimping on the shoes since they last for years and will save upgrading in the future. I don't disagree with his reasoning, but I think I'll move to a different brand.

Or maybe it's still just my pedaling mechanics??? Could it possibly be the Look pedals and cleats?
I guess I don't want to give up on the Genius 6.6 because they really fit like a glove. It's weird but when I ride on my trainer, I get no pain, but when I go for a ride (Houston- Terry Hershey park) they throb. Hershey park has a slightly hilly landscape (for Houston, at least). So maybe the climbing has something to do with it?
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Floating??
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Originally Posted by ultraman6970
Adimp thats why i asked you before if your pedals have floating. Some people need the floating.
Thanks. Yes they do have float.
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I havent read this yet.. is this your 1st pair of shoes ever? or you had the problem with other brands before? Do you suffer of hot spots even with regular walking shoes. If thats the case maybe you are looking the answer in the wrong place and the problem arent the shoes but something going on in your feet.
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I'm not sure if Adidas still does make cycling shoes. Only ones I've seen for awhile online are closeouts and they don't have any on their website.
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Originally Posted by adimp
I guess I don't want to give up on the Genius 6.6 because they really fit like a glove. It's weird but when I ride on my trainer, I get no pain, but when I go for a ride (Houston- Terry Hershey park) they throb. Hershey park has a slightly hilly landscape (for Houston, at least). So maybe the climbing has something to do with it?
If they fit like a glove like you say then maybe you should ride it out and see if it's just peddling mechanics. Like I said when I started riding my toes always went number it lasted for the first year then I got my Sidis expecting it to stop and guess what, it didn't. I just said screw it I'll just deal with it, it's not like it's going to kill me, about a year later I suddenly realized at some point it had gone away, and it's never come back.
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YEs, looks like they do not makes them, but not mavic have a new line of cycling shoes that look pretty much identical to Adidas
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Here are a couple thoughts. First, get a yellow superfeet designed for skates and ROAD cycling shoes, blue superfeet are designed to be put in a level shoe, a road cycling shoe has an elevated heel, this does make a difference in how the superfeet supports the rear part of your arch. Second, how is your pedal stroke? If you are stomping on the pedals the entire time, you are putting a lot of force on your forefoot, this will cause your feet to go numb. Try working on a more fluid pedal stroke. Lastly, if your shoes are really tight over the top of your foot it will cut off the circulation to your foot causing your feet to go numb.
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I have some Genius 6.6 shoes that I've had for a few years. They've always made my feet a bit sore. I've tried rotating some different soles in them, but nothing totally cured it.

Last week I got some Super Feet insoles in yellow. I've used them on a few rides and they seem to have cured my feet aches. I find with them that I need to have the straps VERY loose, as the insole is quite stiff and has some contours to it. Don't be afraid to ride with the straps pretty loose, nor to loosen them while riding.

It seems a fair amount of riders have issues with the stock Sidi insoles being inadequate.
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I havent read this yet.. is this your 1st pair of shoes ever? or you had the problem with other brands before?
I'm new to cycling (3 months or so). A friend of mine is experienced cyclist. All these shoes were his except for the 6.6's. Same size 43. I haven't tried any other brand, but I'm starting to think I need a switch even though the 6.6's feel very comfy.

Do you suffer of hot spots even with regular walking shoes. If thats the case maybe you are looking the answer in the wrong place and the problem arent the shoes but something going on in your feet.
I don't have problems w/ regular shoes. I do have high arches and the blue Superfeet insoles gave arch support.
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Originally Posted by adimp
Pedaling mechanics is what I feel is my problem. I don't know if my high arches have anything to do with anything, but I consciously try to not push/pedal with balls of feet but rather feel like I'm pushing with heel which I thought would relieve some of the pain.

Might be ignorance on my part, but I can't imagine pushing with the heels in any phases of the pedaling cycle. Although the advent of carbon soles has done well to help spread pedaling pressure across a wider area of the foot, the balls of the feet are still the main contact point. This you can feel no matter how stiff the soles.

FWIW, I've found the SIDI mega design to not only be slightly wider than the standard SIDI width, but it also gains some of that extra width from increased vertical volume as well. Additionally I do not believe or accept the idea that a critical component such as a cycling shoe will or should break-in to proper fit and function. With modern non-leather uppers I expect it to fit right from the first try, and to maintain that fit throughout its useful life.
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Great.. after overanalyzing what color Superfeet insole to get (blue or gray) I was wrong all along. The blue ones DO make the shoes a bit tighter while giving arch support. Guess I'll throw them in my running shoes.
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Originally Posted by carpediemracing
Wedges have to do with knee/ankle pain. They have more to do with lining up joints versus whether your foot is numb or not.

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Not for me. My right ankle rolls during the power stroke and pinches my (medial?) plantar nerve which causes my two biggest toes to go numb. I can see (and feel) my ankle popping inward during the pedal stroke. Two varus wedges have kept my ankle inline and also made my knee track better, eliminating my big toe from going numb. I've never experience knee or ankle pain.
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Originally Posted by pigmode
Might be ignorance on my part, but I can't imagine pushing with the heels in any phases of the pedaling cycle. Although the advent of carbon soles has done well to help spread pedaling pressure across a wider area of the foot, the balls of the feet are still the main contact point. This you can feel no matter how stiff the soles.

FWIW, I've found the SIDI mega design to not only be slightly wider than the standard SIDI width, but it also gains some of that extra width from increased vertical volume as well. Additionally I do not believe or accept the idea that a critical component such as a cycling shoe will or should break-in to proper fit and function. With modern non-leather uppers I expect it to fit right from the first try, and to maintain that fit throughout its useful life.
I don't think I'm actually pushing with my heel, just feeling like I am so as to (as you said) spread pressure across the whole foot. It seemingly should prevent knee problems by engaging the glutes more (kind of like proper squat form of pushing through the heels). But please let me know if I'm wrong. That's just my guess, but I'm a total newb.
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Specialized BG footbeds have been great to me. I was getting numbness and pain, turned out that my arch and metatarsal area wasnt getting proper support. head to your local dealer, get fit, and try whatever one they recommend. bring your shoes with you.
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without a doubt, lossen the straps.
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Originally Posted by adimp
I don't think I'm actually pushing with my heel, just feeling like I am so as to (as you said) spread pressure across the whole foot. It seemingly should prevent knee problems by engaging the glutes more (kind of like proper squat form of pushing through the heels). But please let me know if I'm wrong. That's just my guess, but I'm a total newb.

Okay, I hear what you're saying. Thought you were implying that you were adjusting your pedal stroke dynamics to minimize toe pain.
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Adimp, you might also want to go to cyclingnews.com. There is a Q&A section on fitness today addressing footpain issues.

And to answer your earlier question, yes, i do have high arches. I purchased the blue Specialized BG insoles to help correct for this. I tried some of the wedges that came with the insoles but found they just created knee pain, rather than alleviate anything.
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Wedges are for knee alignment problems, or for varus problems, if you dont have any of those 2 problems or have them in a real minimal way the wedges will harm you and you will get pain as happened to toplfightpro
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