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Originally Posted by Dheorl
(Post 10662763)
I can be on the bike for hours though, and never feel the need to leave the hoods.
Kinda why I asked the question, do people feel the need to move because they get uncomfortable or because it enables them to get more speed in whatever situation? |
Originally Posted by Dheorl
(Post 10662763)
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Kinda why I asked the question, do people feel the need to move because they get uncomfortable or because it enables them to get more speed in whatever situation? 2) To go faster (or same speed with less work). If you're running an aggressive drop from the seat to the bars, it's likely not going to be comfortable to ride in the drops all day long on a long ride. 3) To increase stability cornering or descending. And you don't need to get so aero if you're just tooling along, or you're sitting in the paceline. So you can ride along on the hoods, and then get in the drops when it's your turn to pull, when you turn into a headwind, when you're bridging between groups, when you're off the front solo, when you're going to sprint, when you're cornering or descending, or when you just want to pickup the pace. |
Originally Posted by stevetone
(Post 10660649)
1. back hooks
2. front hooks 3. top of shifter 4. hoods 5. front of hoods at the bend 6. wide tops 7. narrow tops 8. wrist on tops Guess that's 8. And the reason? comfort, control, aerodynamics, & mood, I s'pose. |
I do pretty much every position mentioned in this thread. One position I sometimes use is where I have one hand in the drop and hand on the the top, near the the first curve. I find this position to give me a lot of control while not having to reach as far. Does anyone else do this?
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Originally Posted by FreddyV
(Post 10662746)
Hoods when going downhill (yes, I get scared downhilling in the drops).
You can also slide your butt rearward to reduce the likelihood of the "over the handle bars" effect.
Originally Posted by Dheorl
(Post 10660554)
Just wondering, how many hand positions do you guys actually use?
People always use the number of hand positions as the main reason for drops. In normal riding I only ever find myself on the hoods though. If I'm trying to go faster than I could on the hoods (generally due to air resistance in whatever form) then I'll go into the drops, but that's about the only other position I use enough to even be worth mentioning. Wondering if I'm the only one like this any everyone actually makes use of all the wonderful extra hand positions. Part of the skill of bicycling is managing momentum efficiently so you don't waste it. Using the drops (more) is a key tool for this. It's surprising to me that so many people who ride a lot almost never use the drops. I ride on the hoods when I'm going relatively slow. I use the top of the bar for variation. I'll ride on the curves to get low and get better leverage on the brakes. I'll ride on the ends to get low and be able to rest on my arms/hands. |
Originally Posted by FreddyV
(Post 10662746)
Hoods when going downhill (yes, I get scared downhilling in the drops).
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Originally Posted by umd
(Post 10664740)
Drops give you more control and more powerful braking. What is it about going downhill in the drops that scares you?
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Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy
(Post 10662773)
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I love twisty downhills. It's like riding a sportbike.
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About 8.
If you a combination of positions like LH tops RH hoods the list would get quite long. |
If I am bored or my wrists hurt I will rest my elbows on the tops like I have invisible tri bars. If I am really bored and there is no traffic, I will rest my forehead or chin on my forearms. You can almost take a nap in this position.
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Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy
(Post 10664961)
I love twisty downhills. It's like riding a sportbike.
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Originally Posted by caloso
(Post 10664957)
I use that one a lot myself, especially on a windy flat. I can get my torso as low as I would in the drops, but being able to rest my wrist/forearm along the top curve is comfy.
Another one I forgot to mention is laying your wrists on the tops. Haven't done that since I rebuilt my bike though, front end seems more twitchy than I remember it to be, so I'll save that position for later. |
Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy
(Post 10664961)
I love twisty downhills. It's like riding a sportbike.
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Originally Posted by FreddyV
(Post 10664931)
Not really sure what it is. Just a feeling based on nothing at all probably :)
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Originally Posted by rat fink
(Post 10664344)
I do pretty much every position mentioned in this thread. One position I sometimes use is where I have one hand in the drop and hand on the the top, near the the first curve. I find this position to give me a lot of control while not having to reach as far. Does anyone else do this?
Other than that I move my hands all over the bar for variety/comfort/conditions. |
Originally Posted by umd
(Post 10664740)
Drops give you more control and more powerful braking. What is it about going downhill in the drops that scares you?
Originally Posted by FreddyV
(Post 10664931)
Not really sure what it is. Just a feeling based on nothing at all probably :)
Practice cornering and descending in the drops for a little bit, and I bet you will come around to feeling more secure descending that way. |
my 2 fav's are.
1. Drops on flat/downhill ( this is most comfortable for me ) 2. for steep hills , I like to rest my forearms ( above pic ), since im 6 2 / 200 pounds, im just trying to survive the hill Dont really like riding on the hoods that much , unless im cruising/not pushing myself. |
Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
(Post 10665356)
I think its just a matter of practice. A lot of people feel more secure in a more upright position. Where in fact the lower center of gravity in the drops is more secure.
Practice cornering and descending in the drops for a little bit, and I bet you will come around to feeling more secure descending that way. But yeah, down in the drops is the way to go! PEE-YOO! WHEEE! |
Originally Posted by neversummer
(Post 10665434)
for steep hills , I like to rest my forearms ( above pic ), since im 6 2 / 200 pounds, im just trying to survive the hill
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Even if you aren't trying to go faster, descending in the drops is worth it just for better braking leverage.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
(Post 10665516)
This doesn't make a lot of sense. That position with the elbows bent deep is intended to get you aero, similar to being in the drops. Riding a steep uphill, aerodynamics is mostly out the window, and you're better off sitting upright and breathing.
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Originally Posted by carpediemracing
(Post 10662735)
Just a thought, in general - If you don't use a position due to comfort issues, the bike may not fit you properly.
Originally Posted by carpediemracing
(Post 10662735)
I don't use IABs, for two reasons. First, I can't TT, so being more aero is kind of an oxymoron for me. Second, I feel unstable, and being risk averse, I don't like feeling unstable.
I use drops, hoods, tops. I try and hook a finger/thumb around something. Eddy B would say to have something hooked to your bar so that if you hit something unexpectedly (more likely if you're sightseeing or in the middle of a group of riders), your hand doesn't go flying off. He was pretty critical of riders who casually laid their hands on the bars. I think the word he used was "stupid". I used to ride casually like that, but, again, being a risk averse person, I now ride with either with a hooked finger or being very aware of what's ahead of me. |
Thanks for the advice.
I took my commute's downhill today in the drops. It felt a bit awkward at first, but it's worth it. Takes a little getting used to, but it feels good. |
Originally Posted by halfspeed
(Post 10666823)
There's that, or the OP may lack core fitness.
So once you get past hoods - cruising, drops - downhill/overcoming wind/sprinting and tops - breathing is there any extra functionality to the other hand positions, or is it purely for variation for the wrists/arms? |
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