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NEUROSPORT 06-05-10 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by rydaddy (Post 10918886)
who needs aerodynamics on the MUP?

well that's a philosophical question ...

NEUROSPORT 06-05-10 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by Nerull (Post 10918889)
If you're riding fast enough that the aerodynamics of a bike pump make any difference at all on multi use trails, you're a danger to yourself everyone else on them.

i know. but the alternative ( road ) i like even less.

NEUROSPORT 06-05-10 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by 4000Miles (Post 10918896)
1) If you really have a problem with the mount, call Todson and ask them for another one. 99% chance if you're polite on the phone, they'll send one for free. They may even send one of the mounts like the above picture which mounts to the side of one of the cages.

2) If you don't ride on the road, I think aerodynamics are not something you need to be concerned about. Particularly if you are also still using platform pedals and wearing street clothes. Street clothes are not aerodynamic, you know. They flap around. And things.

i will replace everything - clothes and pedals. i just didn't get around to do it yet.

corbett1010 06-05-10 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT (Post 10918918)
i know. but the alternative ( road ) i like even less.

there is nothing wrong with the road, i live the most conjested state, you get used to it.

by the way, how old are you?

4000Miles 06-05-10 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT (Post 10918918)
i know. but the alternative ( road ) i like even less.

Then get a damn comfort bike and slow the **** down. If you aren't willing to ride on the ROAD, then sell your ROAD bike. MUPs exist for... multiple uses. Amazing how that works, isn't it? They aren't for you to push 20mph in the drops, and if you're not doing that, you don't need to be concerned with aerodynamics.

tFUnK 06-05-10 10:34 PM

what are we, in the 80's? forget about a frame-mounted pump. get a mini pump that fits in your jersey pocket or roll with co2.

OT: Neurosport, i feel like i know you from somewhere, but not sure where. the fact that you are from the bay and mention stevens creek/los gatos seems to confirm my suspicions. where did you go for highschool/college?

corbett1010 06-05-10 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT (Post 10918926)
you guys like to call me an idiot to boost your ego. i like to pass you on the trail to boost mine.

i know i know - i could never pass YOU because you are all TDF pros ...

hahaha not at all, you will pass me all day long, i am a slow rider, i use cycling for crosstraining

NEUROSPORT 06-05-10 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich (Post 10918910)
except most pumps mount to the side. there are frame pumps that hang off of the top tube

hm i have a cable going under the top tube that is almost in the middle. that's why i couldn't mount the morph there using the plastic zip things.

u think i could mount some other pump there ? that would be aerodynamically preferable to side mounting.

NEUROSPORT 06-05-10 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by corbett1010 (Post 10918930)
there is nothing wrong with the road, i live the most conjested state, you get used to it.

by the way, how old are you?

i'm going to be 29 this month.

yes theres nothing wrong with roads - until you get killed.

look i have friends that will get so drunk they can't walk, then they will get in their BMW, get on a busy street and hit 120 miles per hour on it without even looking ( literally ) where they're going.

you know FAITH is believing what you know ain't so. you can believe that all drivers are responsible if you want.

corbett1010 06-05-10 10:42 PM

what kind of job do you have? sorry, this is not 20 questions, but i must know

corbett1010 06-05-10 10:43 PM

the drunk is still the idiot, you would just be unlucky

deep_sky 06-05-10 10:44 PM

Your bottlecage bolts are not a unique and special snowflake. Barring substitution of aftermarket bolts, they are all the same size, and your bike is not special or unique enough to need different size bolts. I call bullsh*t. You apparently just don't understand how to install a frame mount pump that thousands of other people install and use without issue. If you got a defective mount, then contact the manufacturer. Saying all Topeak products are trash because you are too lazy to verify if you have a defective mount or not is lazy and small-minded.

So you ride with street clothes and basketball shoes, you are deathly afraid of riding on roads where a CO2 cartridge might maim you, and you think you are benefiting at all from aerodynamics? You are hysterical. Rarely can you even get over 15mph on stevens creek or los gatos creek trail unless you happen to be out at an unusual hour. I doubt you can even sustain over 20mph with that highly non-aero bike you have, especially since you can only use half your pedalstroke, your basketball kit flapping in the breeze.

Really you almost get rational, and then you completely go off the deep end by wrapping an entire box of tin foil around your head, claim you are something special and unique with higher standards of perfection than anyone else. Get over yourself.

deep_sky 06-05-10 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT (Post 10918945)
hm i have a cable going under the top tube that is almost in the middle. that's why i couldn't mount the morph there using the plastic zip things.

u think i could mount some other pump there ? that would be aerodynamically preferable to side mounting.

:rolleyes:

The mount has a space for the cable, I can use my back brake without any hindrance, as the cable is protected by the mount itself, and thus the zip ties can't even compress that cable. You just confirmed you were unable to figure out how to install the mounting bracket.


yes theres nothing wrong with roads - until you get killed.
Best just hide in your house, then. You risk your life every day in any number of ways. You have no problems driving your car, but you are scared of traffic on the roads? Why do you even bother cycling if you hate everything to do with it, hate all the gear used for it, and hate riding anywhere except two boring MUP's crowded with obstacles.

Find another hobby, you obviously are unequal to the task of learning this sport.

SalsaPodio 06-05-10 10:48 PM

I have a suspicion that NEUROSPORT is the most dedicated troll ever. I mean, he even took pictures of what he "rides" in just to get a reaction from people. I applaud you for your dedication. :beer:

deep_sky 06-05-10 10:52 PM

Yeah, I think he is, but I am just passing the time procrastinating on packing gear up for a trip next week.
All the bragging about putting out more power than TdF pros, needing a gigantic gear ratio on a goddamned MUP, how stupidly built and strong he is, and we see he is just a chubby deconditioned Fred who thinks he is something special, but can't even install a frame pump.

NEUROSPORT 06-05-10 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by 4000Miles (Post 10918935)
Then get a damn comfort bike and slow the **** down. If you aren't willing to ride on the ROAD, then sell your ROAD bike. MUPs exist for... multiple uses. Amazing how that works, isn't it? They aren't for you to push 20mph in the drops, and if you're not doing that, you don't need to be concerned with aerodynamics.

i started riding in the drops this week. i love it.

SalsaPodio 06-05-10 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by deep_sky (Post 10918982)
Yeah, I think he is, but I am just passing the time procrastinating on packing gear up for a trip next week.
All the bragging about putting out more power than TdF pros, needing a gigantic gear ratio on a goddamned MUP, how stupidly built and strong he is, and we see he is just a chubby deconditioned Fred who thinks he is something special, but can't even install a frame pump.

I was actually thinking about installing a 58 tooth chainring and machining my own 10-19 cassette.

SalsaPodio 06-05-10 10:55 PM

yey for double posting

NEUROSPORT 06-05-10 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by tFUnK (Post 10918938)
what are we, in the 80's? forget about a frame-mounted pump. get a mini pump that fits in your jersey pocket or roll with co2.

OT: Neurosport, i feel like i know you from somewhere, but not sure where. the fact that you are from the bay and mention stevens creek/los gatos seems to confirm my suspicions. where did you go for highschool/college?

sorry i am only here first year. i am from Brooklyn, New York originally.

NEUROSPORT 06-05-10 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by corbett1010 (Post 10918957)
what kind of job do you have? sorry, this is not 20 questions, but i must know

i'm unemployed. before that i was an electrical engineer.

NEUROSPORT 06-05-10 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by deep_sky (Post 10918961)
You apparently just don't understand how to install a frame mount pump that thousands of other people install and use without issue.

well it has 2 holes and 2 bolts. maybe i don't understand how to put 2 bolts into 2 holes ? i mean it's possible. but what am i supposed to do - kill myself ?

deep_sky 06-05-10 11:03 PM

And whose coattails did you ride to get your degree? If you can't figure out how to mount a simple frame bracket, I doubt yop could design anything.

corbett1010 06-05-10 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT (Post 10918998)
i'm unemployed. before that i was an electrical engineer.

how can you afford to live in california? you dont have to answer

that sounds like a boring job, you should join the military, i am sure that will cure some of your fears

NEUROSPORT 06-05-10 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by deep_sky (Post 10918965)
The mount has a space for the cable, I can use my back brake without any hindrance, as the cable is protected by the mount itself, and thus the zip ties can't even compress that cable. You just confirmed you were unable to figure out how to install the mounting bracket.

my mount has no such space. i have it right here. i obviously returned the pump without it since it was destroyed.

deep_sky 06-05-10 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT (Post 10919002)
well it has 2 holes and 2 bolts. maybe i don't understand how to put 2 bolts into 2 holes ? i mean it's possible. but what am i supposed to do - kill myself ?

Apparently it is beyond you. I have my rear brake cable in the exact same place you do, and I mounted the bracket in a couple of minutes, and I have no problems with the zip ties compressing the cable, as the design prevents the zip ties from even touching the cable. I'm not even an engineer of any variant, nor am I particularly mechanically inclined, and I had no problem, same as thousands of other people. It's not a stretch to see that you are particularly inept at anything other than trolling.

NEUROSPORT 06-05-10 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by deep_sky (Post 10918965)
Find another hobby, you obviously are unequal to the task of learning this sport.

sorry but your sport is no rocket science. it's about as brain dead as they come.

deep_sky 06-05-10 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT (Post 10919012)
my mount has no such space. i have it right here. i obviously returned the pump without it since it was destroyed.

*sigh* you are dense. the cable runs along the side of the mount. The thickness of the zip ties along with the position of the bottom edge of the bracket prevent the zip ties from bending at the angle require to actually compress the cable, unless your top tube is thinner than the bracket itself (even then the zip ties cannot bend at a 90 degree angle due to their stiffness), something that that is demonstrably false.

deep_sky 06-05-10 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT (Post 10919027)
sorry but your sport is no rocket science. it's about as brain dead as they come.

Clearly not, since you can't figure out even the basic stuff.

NEUROSPORT 06-05-10 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by deep_sky (Post 10919006)
And whose coattails did you ride to get your degree? If you can't figure out how to mount a simple frame bracket, I doubt yop could design anything.

you dumbass it is not i who can't figure out how to install it it is topeak that can't figure out how to design it.

NEUROSPORT 06-05-10 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by corbett1010 (Post 10919010)
how can you afford to live in california? you dont have to answer

that sounds like a boring job, you should join the military, i am sure that will cure some of your fears

i know this is BF but why do u need to make stupid posts ?


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