Not sure how you would look starved at 6' foot 180, I would consider it fit looking. I have a hard time gaining muscle Certainly I am what our society (obesity epidemic) would consider "skinny" but the tiny bit of excess stomach fat I have is not attractive and serves no purpose. People pay thousands to take a pound or two off their bike, so taking 10-15 pounds off my body is cheaper and im sure I'll see some sort of improvement. There is a reason pro's are rail thin.

Counting calories has already started working, Ive lost some stomach, a few pounds, and my appetite is supressed unless I have a heavy ride day.

It also will help your Watts/KG!!

+1000

Alright I'm giving the livestrong thing a shot

Ok, an exaggeration. "Super-buff" then. But probably way more buff looking than I need to or want to get (and bother maintaining).

Fit looking? LOL. Livestrong's BMI calculator says I should be 140 pounds and that I'm obese. At 5'9" I can say the last time I weighed 140 was in grade 8 most likely. I was 180 and fit as hell at 18.

I'm 40 wearing 34 jeans and have a 4 pack. To drop 70 pounds I'd look like I could kill Bruce Lee. Ignore BMI calculators and go for a target heart rate. At my fittest I had a resting rate of 49. I'd like to get there again.

I would be curious to know what your experience with weight loss is. Not maintaining a fit weight, but significant loss. "Eat less, ride [exercise] more" is a familiar old saw, and a recipe for disaster if you're trying to lose a significant amount.

Sure, "just eat less and exercise more, quit worrying about it." But most people who have successfully lost weight will tell you it requires careful planning, because in a way you're going contrary to your instincts every step of the way. And truthfully, the mantra should be "eat more, make better and informed choices, take in fewer calories, get regular moderate exercise".

Well I used to use livestrong. It said to reach my aggressive goal I'd have to consume 2400 calories a day. I actually didn't lose any weight. I kept at it for 2 months. Nothing.

Switched to back loseit and adjusted their exercise calculations to a more realistic wattage output and I dropped weight quickly.

Again, as above - do it smart, do it as a permanent lifestyle change. Crash calorie restriction works for some, is damaging for others. Experiment and make sure that you can wake up the next day and not be dizzy. It's very true that just eating less is not really going to help you. Careful planning and methodical examination of what your body is doing is very critical.

There is a direct correlation between desire and results. A very PC way to say lazy people stay fat.

I realize you weren't addressing me, but I lost about 30 pounds by riding more and not eating less, but not eating more. I actually lost so much, I became anorexic...

There was a Nova episode a few years ago "Marathon Challenge." They took 12 sedentary people and trained them to run a marathon in six (?) months. With a body scan before training started, all but one were declared obese based on body fat %.

After they finished their first 12-mile run, which was maybe 8 or 12 weeks into some pretty serious training, they did another body scan. Only one runner was no longer obese, and she was the only one who made intentional changes to her diet. Everyone's VO2Max had improved, but they were generally still just as fat as when they were sedentary.

Same thing with the body scans after they ran the Boston Marathon -- that same woman was the only one who was no longer obese. (other than one genetically gifted participant who went in sedentary with a naturally impressive VO2Max and little body fat).

She would be hotter if she didnt have hands that look like mine. I bet she has other man parts that look like mine too.

You're high. She doesn't have man-hands. She's smokin' hot.

as I relayed it to my wife: she's attractive, sure. She's not sexy, though. (not to me anyway).

Anything like this for Blackberry?

Jillian Michaels has a hot body, but a horse face. Just my $0.02.

Every time I see her I think she's the prettiest drag queen I've ever seen.

If you're focusing on her hands, or even her face, you're doing it wrong. May I draw your attention to those abs?

you mean, his abs?

brio calorie tracker is great for putting in what you eat, but it doesn't track calories expended. the livestrong blackberry app does that but I find it cumbersome to use, plus WAY overestimating my calories burned

You need to get out and see some more queens.

As I've commented to my wife, I'd be deathly afraid she'd snap my neck with her bare heads if I didn't "perform" properly.

So she's a "butter" face.

Everything looks good "butter" face.

Today i did a 34 mile ride with 2000 FT of climbing and burned 1039 calories.
The reason i know the exact amount is i wear a bodybug like on biggest loser, so far i have lost 101 lbs and am maintaining it for the last 4 mos.
i also weigh most of what i eat (A little over kill but that's just me)

500 calorie deficit a day = 1lb weight loss a week
1000 calorie deficit a day = 2lbs weight loss a week

Nice to know i'm not the only one that thinks this.

Wow, that seems awfully low. How long did it take you? Average speed?

Congrats on losing a century of weight my friend.

02.16:.9 hours with an average speed of 15.6 mph

Thank you.