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Originally Posted by recon455
(Post 11016303)
Interesting that they use a braze on FD, but still use a round tube design. If you're going to use a braze on, go crazy on the seat tube!
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Originally Posted by Menel
(Post 11016274)
Nationality is usually far down on my list of qualitifactions. But the combo of being made in the usa and the fact that it was a highly acclaimed high quality bike almost has me wanting to go pick up a CAAD9-1 or something =/
BB30 =/ means no pure Shimano drivetrain, blah. I know spec sheet wise BB30 certainly sounds impressive, realistically I've not been convinced. also, as for the idiots posting things such as government contracts & stuff http://www.zilefile.com/files/245_we...o%20others.jpg |
Originally Posted by AEO
(Post 11016129)
it's a no nonsense racing frame.
"MADE IN USA" decal in super-sized fonts is nonsense and so are flashy colours. That said, I'd like to see the red version, because red makes things go faster. Overall I like the 09 paint job the best. And yes I'd also like to see other color schemes if anyone finds any. |
Looks like they've cheaped out on the welds. My CAAD5 and Rush welds are all ground smooth and cleaned up. The photos here look to me like they just left the bare weld bead without grinding it smooth. Bummer, that's one of the things I always liked about C'dale's AL frames: attention to detail.
I guess this is what Dorel brings to the party. |
Originally Posted by Chris_F
(Post 11016595)
Looks like they've cheaped out on the welds. My CAAD5 and Rush welds are all ground smooth and cleaned up. The photos here look to me like they just left the bare weld bead without grinding it smooth. Bummer, that's one of the things I always liked about C'dale's AL frames: attention to detail.
I guess this is what Dorel brings to the party. "This bike numba 10!" |
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You people crack me up sometimes. This is the downfall of Cannondale because in an early picture you noticed that the welds don't look as smooth?
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Originally Posted by SkinnyLegs
(Post 11015875)
Did I hear right? The frameset is now 200g lighter compared to the CAAD9?
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Originally Posted by Chris_F
(Post 11016595)
Looks like they've cheaped out on the welds. My CAAD5 and Rush welds are all ground smooth and cleaned up. The photos here look to me like they just left the bare weld bead without grinding it smooth. Bummer, that's one of the things I always liked about C'dale's AL frames: attention to detail.
If you grind and fill welds, you can make a bad weld look good. If you leave the weld beads alone, it will expose a crap weld. Co-Motion for example doesn't grind the welds on their aluminum bikes, and they are known for the quality of their welding. So not grinding the welds, may not be as pleasing to your eye, but it may also make for a better frame. |
Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
(Post 11017273)
There's a pretty good argumnet to be made that leaving the weld beads alone, and not grinding them smooth causes attention to detail.
If you grind and fill welds, you can make a bad weld look good. If you leave the weld beads alone, it will expose a crap weld. Co-Motion for example doesn't grind the welds on their aluminum bikes, and they are known for the quality of their welding. So not grinding the welds, may not be as pleasing to your eye, but it may also make for a better frame. The fact that people are actually getting so worked up about this bike is almost sad. Go outside and play people! |
Almost sad? I'd say it hit sad pretty quick.
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Originally Posted by damocles1
(Post 11017296)
Exactly! If these fanboys actually saw what the C'dale welds looked like from the inside, they'd all shut up. They look like someone just shoved filler between the tubes. They are ugly and full of voids. They grind them to hide the sh*t welds that 'uh-mericans' did at the factory!
The fact that people are actually getting so worked up about this bike is almost sad. Go outside and play people! |
From the video on the cdale website they weld the frames, check the welds. Then they go back and add a filler weld, then smooth out the filler weld.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
(Post 11017273)
There's a pretty good argumnet to be made that leaving the weld beads alone, and not grinding them smooth causes attention to detail.
If you grind and fill welds, you can make a bad weld look good. If you leave the weld beads alone, it will expose a crap weld. Co-Motion for example doesn't grind the welds on their aluminum bikes, and they are known for the quality of their welding. So not grinding the welds, may not be as pleasing to your eye, but it may also make for a better frame. |
Welds at the headtube junctions look kind of chunky now, compared with my CAAD9.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01
(Post 11016368)
Huh ?? They were built at their factory in Bedford, PA
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2:20 should clear up your little weld arguments. remember, this is the way they USED TO BE made. say bye bye to attention to detail. get the 9's while you can!
another video to remember a great american company that once was. |
I wouldn't hesitate to buy a Taiwan made CAAD, But like enjoi07 said, The attention to detail thing might not be as good as the CAAD'S made here.
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Originally Posted by Fat Boy
(Post 11017523)
Not may, it does. All things being equal, a smoothed weld is not as strong as one that's left alone.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
(Post 11017242)
Not sure I'd want an Aluminum frame 200g lighter than a CAAD 9. You got to be getting into beer can territory on some parts of that frame to get it 200g lighter.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
(Post 11017242)
Not sure I'd want an Aluminum frame 200g lighter than a CAAD 9. You got to be getting into beer can territory on some parts of that frame to get it 200g lighter.
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Originally Posted by hendrick81
(Post 11018402)
I wouldn't hesitate to buy a Taiwan made CAAD, But like enjoi07 said, The attention to detail thing might not be as good as the CAAD'S made here.
i just find it really cool that their are companies that can do everything in house, customization. a reason why bill holland is so big around my area. a reason why the new project cali is so damn awesome! all the R&D in house, carbon layups by hand in house, limited because they take time to produce. |
Haiku for CAAD:
They will sell lots, but end of an era indeed. I hate those chain stays. |
Watching that video is very sad. Cannondale was once a great company and their bikes will be missed. The USA made CAAD9 at least let them go out with a bang. The new bike looks like a cookie-cutter Chinese made POS, like most of the other brands who contract production out of China/Taiwan sweatshops.
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Originally Posted by Fleabiscuit
(Post 11018583)
Watching that video is very sad. Cannondale was once a great company and their bikes will be missed. The USA made CAAD9 at least let them go out with a bang. The new bike looks like a cookie-cutter Chinese made POS, like most of the other brands who contract production out of China/Taiwan sweatshops.
The fact that the bike was handmade in the good ol' USA made it special. The CAAD10 looks hideous. R.I.P CAAD R.I.P Cannondale PS: **** Dorel |
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