P3C for $1200 on Ebay. Scam?
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P3C for $1200 on Ebay. Scam?
I know. If it sounds too good to be true it probably is. A new 2008 Cervelo P3C for $1200 shipped. Zipp Z
Zipp wheels, Sram set up. Comes from Europe. The guy has 385 comments and only one is negative.
I don't know a lot about eBay amd am a natural born skeptic. I assume this is a scam and has been around in different forms for a while. But how does a guy get that many good comments? What am I missing here.
Any experienced thoughts would be appreciated.
Zipp wheels, Sram set up. Comes from Europe. The guy has 385 comments and only one is negative.
I don't know a lot about eBay amd am a natural born skeptic. I assume this is a scam and has been around in different forms for a while. But how does a guy get that many good comments? What am I missing here.
Any experienced thoughts would be appreciated.
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I heard that people create hundreds of fake accounts, auction items off, "sell" them to the fake accounts and give themselves positive ratings. One individual claims that throwing a neutral or bad review occasionally makes it look more "real".
Ebay is the most dishonest place in the ether.
Ebay is the most dishonest place in the ether.
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Link ? I don't see one for $1200
If the account looks good, it may have been hijacked, so it was good until a few days ago.
If the account looks good, it may have been hijacked, so it was good until a few days ago.
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I heard that people create hundreds of fake accounts, auction items off, "sell" them to the fake accounts and give themselves positive ratings. One individual claims that throwing a neutral or bad review occasionally makes it look more "real".
Ebay is the most dishonest place in the ether.
Ebay is the most dishonest place in the ether.
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https://cgi.ebay.com/08-NEW-Cervelo-P...item3f0164f031
Here is the email I received from him:
Greetings
Thank you for your interest in purchasing my bike .I have all sizes available
Right now you can buy BRAND NEW Cervelo P3 Carbon 2008 P3C for only $1200 . price is included the shipping .
My bike is new come with all accessories warranty .
You can have this at your door in 3 days after you confirm the payment because the shipment will be made via Ups 3Day Air or Fedex overnighted from europe.So that's why we use as a payment method Western Union money transfer, the fastest and
also very secure way of sending money because we will close this deal ONLY under eBay,with their protection. The transaction will go strictly according to eBay's RULES and POLICY and will be supervised by eBay Trust & Safety Department..
If you have any question don't hesitate to contact me .bidding is restricted because I want to carefully choose my buyers. is not necessary to bid It is not important who bids or how much...
If you agree with my terms, Let me know asap because the items are ready to be shipped
Kind Regards
Here is the email I received from him:
Greetings
Thank you for your interest in purchasing my bike .I have all sizes available
Right now you can buy BRAND NEW Cervelo P3 Carbon 2008 P3C for only $1200 . price is included the shipping .
My bike is new come with all accessories warranty .
You can have this at your door in 3 days after you confirm the payment because the shipment will be made via Ups 3Day Air or Fedex overnighted from europe.So that's why we use as a payment method Western Union money transfer, the fastest and
also very secure way of sending money because we will close this deal ONLY under eBay,with their protection. The transaction will go strictly according to eBay's RULES and POLICY and will be supervised by eBay Trust & Safety Department..
If you have any question don't hesitate to contact me .bidding is restricted because I want to carefully choose my buyers. is not necessary to bid It is not important who bids or how much...
If you agree with my terms, Let me know asap because the items are ready to be shipped
Kind Regards
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https://cgi.ebay.com/08-NEW-Cervelo-P...item3f0164f031
Here is the email I received from him:
Greetings
Thank you for your interest in purchasing my bike .I have all sizes available
Right now you can buy BRAND NEW Cervelo P3 Carbon 2008 P3C for only $1200 . price is included the shipping .
My bike is new come with all accessories warranty .
You can have this at your door in 3 days after you confirm the payment because the shipment will be made via Ups 3Day Air or Fedex overnighted from europe.So that's why we use as a payment method Western Union money transfer, the fastest and
also very secure way of sending money because we will close this deal ONLY under eBay,with their protection. The transaction will go strictly according to eBay's RULES and POLICY and will be supervised by eBay Trust & Safety Department..
If you have any question don't hesitate to contact me .bidding is restricted because I want to carefully choose my buyers. is not necessary to bid It is not important who bids or how much...
If you agree with my terms, Let me know asap because the items are ready to be shipped
Kind Regards
Here is the email I received from him:
Greetings
Thank you for your interest in purchasing my bike .I have all sizes available
Right now you can buy BRAND NEW Cervelo P3 Carbon 2008 P3C for only $1200 . price is included the shipping .
My bike is new come with all accessories warranty .
You can have this at your door in 3 days after you confirm the payment because the shipment will be made via Ups 3Day Air or Fedex overnighted from europe.So that's why we use as a payment method Western Union money transfer, the fastest and
also very secure way of sending money because we will close this deal ONLY under eBay,with their protection. The transaction will go strictly according to eBay's RULES and POLICY and will be supervised by eBay Trust & Safety Department..
If you have any question don't hesitate to contact me .bidding is restricted because I want to carefully choose my buyers. is not necessary to bid It is not important who bids or how much...
If you agree with my terms, Let me know asap because the items are ready to be shipped
Kind Regards
Oh, any grammar or punctuation errors in the above is purely intentional.
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That's an obvious scam .... you shouldn't need to ask. You should report them to Ebay. Click "Report Item" (I just did)
Account was most likely hijacked by a phishing scam and the sucker giving out the password ... or a fake account as suggested due to all the "private" sales.
Account was most likely hijacked by a phishing scam and the sucker giving out the password ... or a fake account as suggested due to all the "private" sales.
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Two year old used Zipp wheels are worth close to $1200. Total scam. Run away.
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I have bought and sold lots of stuff on Ebay. If you use Paypal, you are insured. I have seen auctions wonn't accept Paypal and I would never participate in those.
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That's an obvious scam .... you shouldn't need to ask. You should report them to Ebay. Click "Report Item" (I just did)
Account was most likely hijacked by a phishing scam and the sucker giving out the password ... or a fake account as suggested due to all the "private" sales.
Account was most likely hijacked by a phishing scam and the sucker giving out the password ... or a fake account as suggested due to all the "private" sales.
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Dude, I have an eBay rule. Call me an elitist bastard, an arrogant pig, or a college-educated know-it-all, but if the person I am buying from can't put together basic sentence structure and have at least a 3rd grade command of the English language I ain't buying nothing from them. This stuff is the reddest of flags for me.
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I looked over the ad and it doesn't smell right. Anyone want to estimate how much it would cost to go into your local bike shop and buy this bike? The ZIPP wheels alone are over $1200.
He is accepting Paypay which seem strange since they gurantee the transaction. This doesn't mean that it isnt' a scam, it means that Paypal will take it in the shorts., but it does mean NO BIKE.
I may send him an email just to see if he will replay and what the scam is.
He is accepting Paypay which seem strange since they gurantee the transaction. This doesn't mean that it isnt' a scam, it means that Paypal will take it in the shorts., but it does mean NO BIKE.
I may send him an email just to see if he will replay and what the scam is.
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