Positive experience sharing the road
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It used to be a hand gesture but I started to wonder if drivers might take it as a 'you will yield' motion. These days I usually make eye contact and give a tip of the hat motion.
#28
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From: Oakland, CA
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do you all think a cyclist gains more "respect" while cycling on the road dressed up in a matching kit, decent helmet, bike, etc.. rather than in a t-shirt, cargo shorts, etc.?
this is, of course, assuming both types are obeying the laws of the road. keeping a line, signaling, etc... matter of fact, i'll even jump on the sidewalk for a bit if i've bonked and/or going slow up hills.
what do you think?
this is, of course, assuming both types are obeying the laws of the road. keeping a line, signaling, etc... matter of fact, i'll even jump on the sidewalk for a bit if i've bonked and/or going slow up hills.
what do you think?
#29
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From: Central NJ
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I've had many, many positive experiences with cars/trucks here in NJ. Very few have been intentional jerks. Ohio - really, really nice or really, really jerks. I'm always waving acknowledgements of "Thanks" to motor vehicles here in NJ.
Riding outside of Princeton on a two lane county road, I hear a "toot, toot" back behind me, and immediately I know it's a semi, letting me know that he was going to be passing me. He did it far enough back that it didn't startle me and gave me enough time to brace for any wind blast. Very cool.
Most drivers in suburban/rural NJ are courteous. But soccer moms on cell phones - very dangerous.
Riding outside of Princeton on a two lane county road, I hear a "toot, toot" back behind me, and immediately I know it's a semi, letting me know that he was going to be passing me. He did it far enough back that it didn't startle me and gave me enough time to brace for any wind blast. Very cool.
Most drivers in suburban/rural NJ are courteous. But soccer moms on cell phones - very dangerous.
I will say that it is not just the soccer moms, but anyone on a cell phone.
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I've had great luck riding around Dayton, OH, including commuting in traffic daily. Incidents have been benign and rare, and the percentage of people who will slow down and then go completely across the yellow line to pass is astounding.
#32
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I fairly regularly commute (3x a week when I can,) same route every time. I had to take a week off (work-related travel.) Next time I was riding into work, car pulled up alongside and the driver rolled down the window. I'm thinking "Ohh boy, here it comes..."
I was shocked to hear "Hey, I didn't see you all last week! Everything OK?" I managed to say "Yeah, fine. I was out of town."
"Okay, cool! Have a nice day!"
I surely did....
I was shocked to hear "Hey, I didn't see you all last week! Everything OK?" I managed to say "Yeah, fine. I was out of town."
"Okay, cool! Have a nice day!"
I surely did....
#33
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It's not really safety, it's the type and density (number) of roads available for cycling. I've ridden all over Ohio and the roads just aren't as interesting and varied as those in the areas of NJ, PA and NY starting in the Del Water Gap area. Plus, fewer intentionally aggressive drivers and virtually no dogs as compared to Ohio.
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From: Far beyond the pale horizon.
Originally Posted by spry
Ohio...?
I wouldn't take a chance cycling @Berlin "Joisey" when visiting my relatives.
What's your favorite bike route,the AC expressway?
OK. Your response is, for the most part, unintelligible. Look at https://www.njbikemap.com/ The entire northwest quarter of the state is a great place to ride. But for you, the AC expressway sounds fine.
I wouldn't take a chance cycling @Berlin "Joisey" when visiting my relatives.
What's your favorite bike route,the AC expressway?
OK. Your response is, for the most part, unintelligible. Look at https://www.njbikemap.com/ The entire northwest quarter of the state is a great place to ride. But for you, the AC expressway sounds fine.
https://www.bikeleague.org/programs/b...s_brochure.pdf
New Jersey: 8; Ohio 32.
People in NJ don't limit themselves to the "northwest quarter". There's great riding in other quarters too. (I don't quite understand why Terex only mentioned about that area).
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And come on, the other areas of the state don't have Shades of Death Rd.
#36
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I was riding by myself the other weekend and had to take a little break toward the end of my ride. I set my bike down on the grass by the side of the road and sat down for a minute to have a protein bar. As soon as I sat down a young guy pulled over and asked "mam (I'm in my 20s), are you feeling alright? Do you need any water?"
#37
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Perhaps thanks to all the hostile, combative lane-takers, I get several positive experiences per ride. In addition to the garish colors and blinking red light on my seatpost, I also have one on the back of my helmet, and I always ride as far to the right as possible when I hear a car approaching from behind.
Despite this, I still hear the rumble-rumble of car tires passing over the bots-dots in the center of the lane, which tells me the drivers are giving me an especially wide berth. That rumble is a reassuring sound, and I always flash a peace-sign to these considerate motorists after they've passed
.(There was no one approaching in the above photo, it was taken by a roadside photographer, and I was doing at very least 35mph.)
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Of course, you're right. But NE NJ is REALLY built up and crowded, and NJ south of Rt. 1 is flat and you don't get the the density of small, interesting, country roads that you find in the north. When I ride south of Rt. 1 it's mostly pace line stuff. It's a beautiful area - Monmouth County horse country, pine barrens, etc., but kinda boring.
And come on, the other areas of the state don't have Shades of Death Rd.
And come on, the other areas of the state don't have Shades of Death Rd.

Northern Bergen County isn't so bad (not bad at all). Regarding the south, some people don't like hills!
NJ does have a general issue with traffic (in places). But I can work here and still be able to have good riding out my front door!
#39
I do a fair amount of riding like that and I don't notice much difference in how others treat me. Like you said, "if you are confident and look like you know what you are doing...", that's the key. On the other hand, drivers that don't like roadies because of groups taking the road, running signs, etc. may be more likely to get upset at some "lance wannabe in full kit". Personally, I think it all balances out, which is why I added generally.
70% - I live/ride in an small suburban city with wide roads, bike lanes, and little traffic.
15% - Ride with confidence & speed. Look like an athlete (if possible. This is NOT something you can fake with a pro-kit).
10% - Respect the law & ride like you are a car. Wave thanks at drivers who give you the right of way. (I will run lights/stops when it's early and there is no traffic).
5% - Team sponsor. Our team is sponsored by 2 companies well known/respected in the area & both are construction related. I think the name recognition helps us get respect.
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I understood why you preferred the NW corner!
Northern Bergen County isn't so bad (not bad at all). Regarding the south, some people don't like hills!
NJ does have a general issue with traffic (in places). But I can work here and still be able to have good riding out my front door!
Northern Bergen County isn't so bad (not bad at all). Regarding the south, some people don't like hills!
NJ does have a general issue with traffic (in places). But I can work here and still be able to have good riding out my front door!
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No no, let's get this straight pal, when YOU get in trouble is when there's no doubt you're not joking.
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#43
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Where I live, I tend to go out fairly early and try to work out my finish time so that I am not traveling with all of the commuter on their way to work - only buses as public transport and no trains so it gets quite congested. I have found that the bus drivers are some of the most friendly drivers on the road and give me quite a wide berth to the point of going into another lane to pass. There is a dedicated bus lane for most of my ride, and I am never hassled by the bus drivers for riding in it. There is even 1 driver that 'races' me from one stop to another and always gives me a wave when we go our different way if we are close by. I haven't had too many motorists hassle me as there are quite a few cyclists in my area and we do seem to get some respect.
Probably my worst experience was with a Post Office van driver. I was turning left with the right of way, and the van was supposed to stop at a stop sign. The driver looked straight at me, bared his teeth and proceeded to come straight through the stop sign. There definitely was intent as he veered at me as he drove through. Luckily, I was able to hit the anchors and go behind him, just missing his rear bumper. Talk about a heart in my mouth experience.
Probably my worst experience was with a Post Office van driver. I was turning left with the right of way, and the van was supposed to stop at a stop sign. The driver looked straight at me, bared his teeth and proceeded to come straight through the stop sign. There definitely was intent as he veered at me as he drove through. Luckily, I was able to hit the anchors and go behind him, just missing his rear bumper. Talk about a heart in my mouth experience.
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#46
South East Wisconsin is just as nice. People usually give me the whole lane and slow down a very large amount. Haven't every had any negative experiences, except getting hit. In fact just the other day i was training and going through an intersection where i had the right of way, a van pulled up to a stop sign and waited for a good 15 seconds for me to go through. It was a two way stop only. Kinda awkward actually.
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