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Cadence and Maximum Efficiency

Old 08-17-10 | 12:30 PM
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Cadence and Maximum Efficiency

As I was riding today (no powermeter), I was wondering what folks out there felt was there most efficient cadence, at which cadence did speed seem best for a given effort. For me it seems to be around 90-95. Any good data out there (UMD are you there?).
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There isn't really conclusive data for a couple of reasons, One, there is a big individual variance. (see e.g. Jan Uhlrich v. Lance Armstrong), Two, it depends on your definition of efficient.


For example, higher cadence may well not be as "efficient" from an aerobic point of view. However, if the higher cadence leads to less muscle fatigue, and allows you to produce power longer, it may be "better" even though it is not as "efficient" in turning oxygen uptake into power output.

It's also situational. Best cadence for climbing may not be the best cadence for racing in a crit, with lots of accelerations, nor the best cadence for a TT.


All that said, you got to find what works for you.
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What do you mean by "efficiency"?

https://www2.bsn.de/cycling/articles/cadence.html
https://www.powertri.com/triathlon-ed...g-cadence.aspx
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Google is your friend. This was the second thing that popped up in a Google search for "optimum cadence cycling studies":
https://www.fims.org/default.asp?pageID=213202031 Lots of other links to explore using that search, too.

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90-95 is typical for a lot of cyclists, but it really is personal thing.
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Spinning is efficient because the glutes and hamstrings combine to a much bigger muscle than the quads. But they also operate on a higher leverage so need cadence to maintain power.
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You really need to differentiate between comfort and efficiency.

It's virtually impossible for an individual to determine the effect of cadence on efficiency but you can arrive at what's a comfortable cadence under a particular set of conditions. Usually for higher intensity a higher cadence is more comfortable. Loafing along on a recovery ride a lower cadence is probably more comfortable.
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Originally Posted by surgeonstone
As I was riding today (no powermeter), I was wondering what folks out there felt was there most efficient cadence, at which cadence did speed seem best for a given effort. For me it seems to be around 90-95. Any good data out there (UMD are you there?).
"Cadence is a red herring"

What really matters is the balance between pedal force and circumferencial velocity, and the rotational inertia.

Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
There isn't really conclusive data for a couple of reasons, One, there is a big individual variance. (see e.g. Jan Uhlrich v. Lance Armstrong), Two, it depends on your definition of efficient.
Originally Posted by njkayaker
What do you mean by "efficiency"?
Originally Posted by canam73
but it really is personal thing.
Originally Posted by chasm54
Selecting your optimal cadence is a matter of keeping these two systems in balance. The optimal balance is different for each person
Originally Posted by gregf83
You really need to differentiate between comfort and efficiency.
Originally Posted by gregf83
It's virtually impossible for an individual to determine the effect of cadence on efficiency but you can arrive at what's a comfortable cadence under a particular set of conditions. Usually for higher intensity a higher cadence is more comfortable. Loafing along on a recovery ride a lower cadence is probably more comfortable.
and all this.
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