It does. A full powertap setup with a DT Swiss wheel goes for $669. As new tech comes out, the prices for this tuff has dropped. While SRM's started above $4,000, you can get a Quarq for under $2,000.

Thus if Look/Polar wants this to gain wide acceptance, they've got to bring some big advantage to the table, or undercut current pricing. At the reproted numbers for weight, price, and compatibility, that seems questionable, which has a lot fo us who were rooting for Metrigear po'd.

I've been wondering. How close to our engines do we need to measure power? Can they put a power meter in the sole of our shoes? Why not power meter Kinesio tape wrapped around our knees? Or better yet, how about a power meter that reads our good intentions?

I just don't see the appeal of using these pedals and no ANT+ for that price. Price, value, selection. These pedals don't even come close.

SRM is probably the most "popular" in the pro-peleton, but I would say that PowerTaps are the most popular in the amateur peleton. Poseurs of the 41 buy stuff because it's what the pros use. Most amateur racers, aside from noobs just getting into it, tend to buy what's cheaper and more practical for their actual use.

Because those are markets, not fringe groups of whackos.

Ahhh, the (sometimes) ugly truth rears its head. If it doesn't sell, how long is it going to last? Can any component/innovation survive if it is only used in the pro peleton and by aspiring fat wallet wannabes?

Let me toss this in: in 1977 I rode Campy not because most of the pros rodes Campy, but because a very dear friend of mine who was a mechanic explained to me WHY they rode what they did. He didn't steer me wrong.

i agree with everything you say, except for the fact for calling them heavy. the componentry is apparently 70g extra per pedal over existing look keos. hell, my wellgo look delta compatible probably weighs more. other than that, this is has very very few upsides to it.

iBike with a PT ant is a good combo. Don't be dissin the iBike. I use it with and without and I get very much comparable data throughout the entire ride and very right on climbing. It is also not dead. They do need to keep the price down to the Garmin 500 level. TT guys like it. Also never buy them new. They are peanuts in the used market.

yes. later.

So what's wrong with Quarq as apposed to the SRM. It's not like Americans do not know how to make calibrating and measuring instruments. I am waiting for the Taiwanification of PMs and they will be in the price range of a VDO

I'm surprised this is getting more press than the new crank based Power2Max, which would bring crank based nearly down to the cost of a PT. Just like with the Metrigear Product, it has yet to make it to market, but they say they're just waiting on vendors before they move to full scale production

Hey, a Divx player would rock. I watched all my downloaded....err, backed-up movies on a divx enabled dvd player. At least until I got a ps3. So you're at least 1 for 3 on picking the right format, .avi is king (at least for a while until mp4 takes over)

The divx DVD player had nothing to do with the divx computer video format.

For those not aware, DIVX was meant to replace movie rentals with disposable discs, whereas DivX is a codec.

power...

meh

I never could get the iBike I had a couple of years back to work.

From what I understood, he was only using it as a headunit for a PowerTap, which seems to defeat the purpose of the iBike.

Just sayin.

There's nothing wrong with the Quarq, they both have their pros and cons.

SRM - can be calibrated in 10 minutes at home, expensive, battery changes require soldering a new one in or sending to Colorado for $100 once a year
Quarq - Very easy to change battery, cheaper than SRM, great customer service, but currently they require sending to Quarq for calibration

The next advance in pm should include video. I know there is software to sync pm data and video data. I want it to come standard.

Oh, good. More please, it's still rich for my blood.

This is Polar's stab for relevance, pure and simple. I've become less than enamored with my Polar HRM over the years, although I haven't used a WIND device.

I agree.

Once upon a time, Polar was the best HRM maker. With that idea, I got a Polar HRM/computer with cadence (Cs200) a few years ago. It was "temperamental" with readings that would drop at times for no good reason, and didn't work well indoors (trainer). It was not even in the same league as the HRM's that come with other head units.

I use it both free standing and with the PT unit, mostly free standing. I have the iAero which can read Ant PM's. My ANT PT is an Open Pro and since I do not have cash to Ptap all my wheels or buy a Quarq, I have worked with the iAero and PT wheel to calibrate every wheel I have. It took some time and it now works for me. I also took the stupid route and do their simplest calibration and it still was close except going downhill. If you are a TT guy and really want to know how to fine tune your position, the iAero's ability to provide instant CdA when coupled with an ANT PT is fantastic but I am not a TT guy. rruff, a member here and a good wheel builder uses them a lot and he has good results, I bought mine for 275 and this guy gave me 120 3202 batteries with it. It was worth to me for the cost of 3202 batteries alone. I am pretty confident that on the bike I have it on, I have it dialed down whether I am using the Rolfs, the open box rims or the Zipp 404s.

I will not buy them new and they need to lower their price a lot I think and market them more as a head unit for Quarq etc. In the end even if you do not have an ANT PM, they can get pretty close if you took the time, go to their forum to get it setup. I am not a shill or even someone that avid about it but I made mine work for my circumstances. I got the PT ANT free (I have a wired version as well) and it cost less to buy the PT wireless head and way cheaper than a Garmin 705 back then.

I think that, the Vector by MetriGear, priced at 699.99 would be a hot seller. I really think that 700 is the sweet spot for power meters because it is right at the price where using the money to get another bike or new wheels seems impractical. At 700 it will sell in droves.

Oh, but this Look thing is doomed to fail.

I did not know about the calibration can only be done by Quarq, that seems silly. Why not connect the quarq to a USB and have them calibrate it remotely. This is on the top of my wish list, a Quarq PM. If I told my kids to stop going to gymnastics for a couple of months.....