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I forgot how much I hate trainers!

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Old 02-11-11, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bsektzer
Sounds logical enough. I'll give it a try.

I just wonder why 'seat-itis' seems to be more of a problem on the trainer than it is on the road. Maybe I'm just not staying on the saddle as long at a time on the road and not noticing it.
I had to raise and lower my front wheel a few times before I found a position that felt comfortable on the arms and back and also mostly eliminated any pain/numbness in the nether regions. I started with a front wheel support from Performance, but it was too high. Wheel on the floor was too low. Ended up using an old kitchen cutting board that's approximately a half inch thick. And, as has been said here already, remind yourself to move around on the seat -- stand up, sit up and shift so you can feel your sitbones hard on the saddle, etc.

I bought a used KK five years ago but this is the first winter I've really used it. I'm on it about 3 or 4 times a week if I can't get outside. I have no specific training plan at this point but using a HRM to track heart rate, calories (I'm in weight-losing mode). I mix it up with cadence, gear selection, out of the saddle. Based on how I felt on an outdoor ride this past Sunday, the trainer definitely helps.
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Originally Posted by telebianchi
I had to raise and lower my front wheel a few times before I found a position that felt comfortable on the arms and back and also mostly eliminated any pain/numbness in the nether regions. I started with a front wheel support from Performance, but it was too high. Wheel on the floor was too low. Ended up using an old kitchen cutting board that's approximately a half inch thick. And, as has been said here already, remind yourself to move around on the seat -- stand up, sit up and shift so you can feel your sitbones hard on the saddle, etc.

I bought a used KK five years ago but this is the first winter I've really used it. I'm on it about 3 or 4 times a week if I can't get outside. I have no specific training plan at this point but using a HRM to track heart rate, calories (I'm in weight-losing mode). I mix it up with cadence, gear selection, out of the saddle. Based on how I felt on an outdoor ride this past Sunday, the trainer definitely helps.
Hmm, I hadn't even thought about front wheel elevation. I've got one of the CycleOps "climbing" block things that supposedly allows different front wheel heights, but I've not played with it. I think I've got on the lowest (level) slot now. In addition to the tips about moving around on the saddle more, I give the other slots a try as well.

You guys have been really helpful. Thanks for all tips!

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Originally Posted by bsektzer
Hmm, I hadn't even thought about front wheel elevation. I've got one of the CycleOps "climbing" block things that supposedly allows different front wheel heights, but I've not played with it. I think I've got on the lowest (level) slot now. In addition to the tips about moving around on the saddle more, I give the other slots a try as well.

You guys have been really helpful. Thanks for all tips!

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Using my Cycleops Fluid2 I have to use the middle position on the climbing block. I feel like I'm riding downhill (position not effort) using the lowest position.
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Originally Posted by LowCel
I have goals and I know that the trainer is an absolute necessity to reach them. That doesn't mean that I have to like it though.

I've been using a Cycleops Fluid 2 for several years and I think it's great as far as trainers go. I've never used a KK and I don't plan on it, I'm afraid I would like it better.
I can't see how any body could ride a standard trainer after riding a R&R Trainer.
One has to become accustomed to the new freedom that the extra movement provides,
but yes LC...you "will" like it better I believe.
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Originally Posted by 2ndGen
I can't see how any body could ride a standard trainer after riding a R&R Trainer.
One has to become accustomed to the new freedom that the extra movement provides,
but yes LC...you "will" like it better I believe.
Weirdly, after riding rollers, you'll find that you have even LESS motion than you normally have. Rollers really force you into keeping the unecessary body parts not moving, as any extra movement is greatly magnified. Makes me think that it's not necessarily a good thing to have the extra "rocking", as ideally I'd be able to do a full-out roller sprint, which is pretty difficult given the sloppiness that sets in with fatigue.
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Originally Posted by hhnngg1
Weirdly, after riding rollers, you'll find that you have even LESS motion than you normally have. Rollers really force you into keeping the unecessary body parts not moving, as any extra movement is greatly magnified. Makes me think that it's not necessarily a good thing to have the extra "rocking", as ideally I'd be able to do a full-out roller sprint, which is pretty difficult given the sloppiness that sets in with fatigue.
Movement on a KK R&R is optional.
You can also just pedal at a controlled consistent pace.
The KK gives you more options to work out (your core especially),
or one can ride it like a standard trainer.

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