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Old 10-04-10, 07:10 PM
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Dawes Lightning DLX

Hello, I'm 16 years old, turning 17 in a couple of weeks and i'm looking to get my first road bike. for the past 7 years i've rode a walmart mongoose bike and put in around 800 miles in the last year. so i'm not the most high tech cyclist as you can tell. this being said i'm looking for something around $250-$400 dollars. and the Dawes Lightning DLX seems to be a good deal for a road bike, and it seems like it has decent components for someone of my wants and desires. Is there anyone else who's had a Dawes Bike that could tell me how good it is for my age/experience? I'm looking for something that will be a good investment and i've heard that these bikes are good. here's the link https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/dawes/lt_dlx.htm also has anyone bought through bikes direct and found it to be a good resource?
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A BD bike is going to require some assembly. Can you tune the drivetrain?
How familiar are you with fit, seatpost height, position, bar position... etc.

What is your level of fitness, what do you want to do with it? The bike you picked out is very much a comfort upright position road bike... I'd expect most kids would want to go fast...
Triple drivetrain is overkill, look for a compact double.

e.g.
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...per_strada.htm
Specialized Allez
Cannondale CAAD9
Fuji Roubaix
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Patience, save more, get more parental help to expand your budget.
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i may be a novice in the road bike world but i'm good with assembling the bike and all that. I know how to tune the derailleurs on front and back, how to set the post. What do you mean when you say "how familiar are you with fit" do you mean size? and my goal for this fitness wise is something to just ride 20 to 30 miles every outing which will be around twice to four times a week. and i'm wanting an upright position. I'm mostly looking to just get an easy 20 mph on flat ground which seems pretty obtainable on this bike. and plus 400 is my max budget so yeah..
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The problem with the bike in post #2 is, it's twice your budget. Post #5 answers your question.
If it were me and I HAD to have a new bike, I'd get the Triace from WalMart, not the BD bike.
BUt then, when I did buy a bike in that price range (actually more like $100 less than what you want to spend) I picked up a full steel Italian Bianchi with full Campagnolo for $275. Then I found a Cannondale CAAD4 with Sora triple for the same price. So I'd prefer a used bike over the BD.
So, would you rather have the BD bike or this?
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I got the Mavrick Liberty 1 from BD and are very happy with it, will upgrade as I go along and get better at it. You might like the Mavrick Liberty 1 better than the Dawes.
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Originally Posted by dvdr1029
i may be a novice in the road bike world but i'm good with assembling the bike and all that. I know how to tune the derailleurs on front and back, how to set the post. What do you mean when you say "how familiar are you with fit" do you mean size? and my goal for this fitness wise is something to just ride 20 to 30 miles every outing which will be around twice to four times a week. and i'm wanting an upright position. I'm mostly looking to just get an easy 20 mph on flat ground which seems pretty obtainable on this bike. and plus 400 is my max budget so yeah..
20 mph on flat ground with an upright position? If you can do 20 on flat ground upright, just think of how fast you would go in a lower position...
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Originally Posted by ShoMeRacing
I got the Mavrick Liberty 1 from BD and are very happy with it, will upgrade as I go along and get better at it. You might like the Mavrick Liberty 1 better than the Dawes.
It seems to be the same bike, just different brand name, but the brand names are al made from the same factory so it doesn't seem to make much of a difference to me
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Originally Posted by ErichM
20 mph on flat ground with an upright position? If you can do 20 on flat ground upright, just think of how fast you would go in a lower position...
Yeah this is true, but i'm not looking for speed, i'm look for a relaxed feel, i mean i go 16 mph on a BMX bike that was made for a 12 year old so 20 is like cruising speed i guess. I'm buying this bike for the style of riding i do, which is endurance not intensity
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i just got the lightning dlx for my gf 2 weeks ago, so far she loves it. It's a solid entry level bike. Bought her the smallest size which is 44cm and she is 5'3" it's almost big for her! It has "compact" geometry so the top tube slopes, I had to cut a few inches off the seat post to get the seat low enough for her. It comes with microshift brifters which I like A LOT more than Sora brifters and it shifts fine. the crank that came on it was heavy and a bit el cheapo but I had an extra crank laying around that I bought off of ebay so I replaced that right away. She isn't comfortable with riding with drop bars so after a week of her riding it and giving them a chance, I took the drops off her bike and swapped them with the flat bar from my giant rapid 3 and she is very happy with it.

I highly recommend this bike, but I would recommend getting rid of the adjustable stem. use it to figure out positioning then scrap it, it's ugly and it weighs a ton. AS a teen your probably not looking to mount a rack and fenders but this bike has mounting points for a rear rack and there is plenty of clearance to go with larger tires, I'd say probably could easily go as large as 35c if not larger and the brakes are long reach so no need to swap them out.
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just noticed someone linked to the review I did of my gf bike. it's basically the same bike as the gravity liberty, however, my gf like the blue color better than white. I must say i'm pretty envious of the color of her bike, it looks really nice.

to the person who said a triple isunnecessary for a kid, that is probably true, however some will say that a kid should focus on spinning not mashing so should he ever encounter big hills he may want to use that granny gear. It also comes with a 12-25 casette, so if you hit big hills it' snice to have the granny gear. It's not worth paying double for a bike without it and most of BD's lower cost bikes come with triples not compacts.

The big thing for me is that I really think Microshift shifters are underrated and make this bike a great value. The liberty 2 is 499 because it comes with sora shifters and thats about it. I think it's a joke, your better off saving 100 and using microshift, they are easier to shift and easier to brake with. there is also no reason why this bike can't be upgraded either, I need an extra wheelset for my commuter bike i'm putting back into service. since my gf only weighs 130lbs I'll probably spend the money on a nice set of low spoke count ultra light wheels for her and then just take the lightning wheels for my purposes.

This would be a great bike for a kid to start with that he can upgrade along the way as long as he doesn't continue to grow too much taller. The nice thing about bikes direct is that if he does continue to grow taller, just sell this one andbuy another BD bike in a year or two. it's hard to convince mom and dad to do that with

The bike weighed in at 23.2 lbs stock. I changed the crank and stem and shed a lb. it's got a beefy comfy seat that the weight conscious and regular rider could easily swap out nd then of course for someone that can ride low spoke count wheels down the road you could probably shave another 700grams of weight off the wheels.

Brake pads are cheapo as are the tires but as long as you don't weigh too much they will suit you well, ride them til you wear them out, then upgrade them.
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Nashbar has the Diamondback Clarity 1 for $299 --
https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...3_10000_200348

Target sells a brand called Forge which has gotten pretty solid review (I remember a BF from sometime earlier this year or last year about one of their models) - $229
https://www.target.com/Forge-Street-Fitness-Urban-Bike/dp/B000LWDHJS/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&searchView=grid5&keywords=forge&fromGsearch=true&sr=1-18&qid=1286247290&rh=subjectbin%3A1038604&searchRank=target104545&id=Forge%20Street%20Fitness%20Urba n%20Bike&node=1038576|1287991011&searchSize=30&searchPage=1&searchNodeID=1038576|1287991011&searchBi nNameList=subjectbin%2Cprice%2Ctarget_com_primary_color-bin%2Ctarget_com_size-bin%2Ctarget_com_brand-bin&frombrowse=0

Some other possible bikes:
https://www.performancebike.com/bikes..._20000__400306

Since you want an upright riding position, if you have an active Craigslist in your area, with some patience, you should be able to land a really nice older hybrid (700c) Trek/Univega/etc etc. That is essentially what you are looking for -- a rigid hybrid.

Good luck!
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The BD bike is probably great for what you intend to use it for, assuming you won't have to pay someone to put it together. The used market would ultimately provide a better bike for the price, but you need to know what you're looking for (size most importantly) and it might end up needing more work initially, unless you get a well maintained bike.
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My wife has a Trek 7.5fx, which is on the "road" end of the hybrid spectrum (some call it a "flat-bar road bike") and was/is very popular - there's a chance you could find something like that used with some patience in your price range on Craigslist. To sonatageek's point, it's upright / comfortable but definitely fast by hybrid standards. I agree with mazdaspeed above - the used market will be higher return (more bike for the $) and higher risk (chance of buying someone else's problem) if you're not somewhat expert in what you're looking for.

Also, keep in mind that you can probably find an LBS to assemble the BD bike for you for $50 or so - probably not enough to chance the equation significantly if you want to go that route.
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Originally Posted by mazdaspeed
The BD bike is probably great for what you intend to use it for, assuming you won't have to pay someone to put it together. The used market would ultimately provide a better bike for the price, but you need to know what you're looking for (size most importantly) and it might end up needing more work initially, unless you get a well maintained bike.
Yeah i'll be able to do the initial maintenance that comes with buying a packaged bike. and i know my size
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