Careful here - I would sell the EDGE/ENVE for the MSRP if I were selling one of their pre-built wheels. I can say that there is value opportunities on assemblies that I make using their rims.

My experience - I love ENVE. By far the highest quality rim I have seen. They have had some growing pains. I have seen failures, but they have always stood behind their product. After a long talk with them at Interbike I still stand behind my assertion that they are the best carbon rim on the market.

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I've had daydreams about ENVE/EDGE 68 tubulars with blue Tune Mig/Mag hubs

I have these rims on a wheelset and, although I like them, I do not use them when I've got long climbs and descents to negotiate. First, you've got to be super confident in handling your bike with deep dish wheels on descents in windy conditions, because these wheels will throw you around. Second, and most important, these do not have an aluminum brake track, so if you're going down a descent with many twisty switchbacks, you have to be very careful because you can deform the sidewalls of the rim by braking too much. My rear rim deformed at the seam after very little use (800 miles) over not very severe or technical descents. I really baby'ed the rims. Good news, though is that Edge/Enve warrantied the rim and sent me a new one.

Anyway, for climbing, I use some lightweight aluminum rims, such as Kinlin XR-270's or Dura Ace 7850 CL 24 (carbon laminate, but with aluminum brake track).

I'd get a set of Hed Ardennes or similar for rough roads and climbing/descending. As others have said, deep profile carbons are really a flat-lander's wheel.

FWIW, these are NOT "deep" profile rims by any stretch of the imagination. 45mm rims just begin to make an aero dent at speeds that matter, and are not tough to handle in even moderate cross-winds.

Remember that what goes up, must come down, so a light AND moderately aero wheelset is a good combo for climbing, IMO.

I think they're cool climbing wheels. :thumb:

Thanks for the great feedback all. I will let you know when I get to try them; probably around December.

oooooh close but no cigar, I got red Tune hubs.

i didn't realize you sold pre-built ones!? i thought you only did assemblies. i stand corrected.

I have access to certain pre-builts and will likely have more access in the future. Obviously not my primary market. Like i said.....there are some great "values" to be had with a custom configuration.

it is kind of backwards to ask about the wheels after you've bought them...

I have a set of the 1.45 clinchers and think they are the perfect all-conditions wheel. you get the utility of a clincher with competitive weight and a decent rim depth that you can ride in all wind conditions.

i love edge wheels, been riding them for almost 3 years. the quality is top notch and the customer support is great. plus those guys love bikes and are into the sport.

i've currently got the following edge rims:
1.68 tubulars
1.45 clinchers
1.45 tubulars (replaced a set of 1.38 tubulars)
XC mtb rims

there's a definite weight penalty for the clinchers vs. the tubulars, but if you are comparing the wheels to other clinchers, i can't think of another rim that gives a better weight/rim depth tradeoff.

you'll like the wheels. (make sure you use them for everything, not just climbing, it's a utility rim depth).

;)

In all seriousness, if climbing is all you're interested in then Soul 2.0SLs are 1/5 the price and only 10 grams heavier. Unless you're doped to the gills (i.e. abnormally fast) then the aero benefits will be negligible for your purposes.

That's the first I've ever seen rims/wheel depths in inches. Is that something Edge does?

The "1.45" signifies a 45mm deep rim. http://www.envecomposites.com/wheels/road/45.aspx

those wheels go well with a donation to philadelphias neighborhood bike works youth cycling program!

http://www.neighborhoodbikeworks.org/about/index.html

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As DScott said, the number after the point is the depth in mm. The first number is the rim type. 1 is their lightweight rims, 2 is there heavier duty rims, for cross and clydes...

I liked the EDGE name better than ENVE.

I don't think they had a choice to keep EDGE...

they could have kept edge, but as their business grew in europe, they found that somebody else had the european trademark. they could have been edge in u.s. and enve in europe or negotiated for the edge brand in europe. in the end, they changed everything to enve, less brain damage.

took them some time to find another mirror image name that worked like their old logo. enve was the one they hated the least.

i prefer the edge logo, hoping to stock up on the old stickers. i think it's been proven in the wind tunnel that the edge stickers are faster than the enve decals

Thanks. I've been working too hard. :)

Thanks umd. You and merlinextralight are two contributors that add really helpful, courteous, and informative advice. I for one, appreciate both your postings.

I feel like they did that solely for the logo.

You rode your carbon hoops on Everest Challenge, right? How many other racers were on medium or better depth wheels?

I don't remember seeing anyone on super-deep wheels. I certainly wasn't alone on medium depth wheels (mine are 45/46). They are my lightest wheels by far, and I appreciate the aero on the fast descents.

So I guess it's OK to use them for climbing rides? ;)

BTW, very, very nice work out there. :beer: