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Yaniel 10-12-10 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by coasting (Post 11610093)
ok. i just read all this thread up to here and i have 2 things to say.

1) Why oh why would a Jewish person want to tattoo a number on his arm? I mean...what the Fuk is that all about? How immensely ignorant of your people's history can you be?

:crash::crash::crash:

those are numbers from a triathlon. the tattoo is the thing above it.

coasting 10-12-10 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by Yaniel (Post 11610133)
:crash::crash::crash:

those are numbers from a triathlon. the tattoo is the thing above it.

really? That makes it so much less funny. Oh well. I had a good laugh. It's over now.

Velo Vol 10-12-10 07:19 AM

Tattoos are dumb.

logdrum 10-12-10 07:20 AM

The ear thing which make your ears bigger than Gandalf is a bit much for me. I also wonder if you get pregnant, how do you deal with belly button piercings. If I french kiss someone with a ball bearing on their tongue, will she/he flick her/his tongue hard enough to chip my front teeth.

BTW the number is an IronMan triathlon number but it does seem to desecrate the Star of David and brings us back to a weird vibe circa 1939.


Originally Posted by coasting (Post 11610093)
ok. i just read all this thread up to here and i have 2 things to say.

1) Why oh why would a Jewish person want to tattoo a number on his arm? I mean...what the Fuk is that all about? How immensely ignorant of your people's history can you be?

2) Do you think piercings and studs etc are worse than tatts?

I don't mean to throw accelerant onto a fire but what the hell.


mvnsnd 10-12-10 07:25 AM

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MDfive21 10-12-10 07:40 AM

there are not enough facepalms on the interwebs to properly describe the off-topic fail in this thread.

Nachoman 10-12-10 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by coasting (Post 11610093)
1) Why oh why would a Jewish person want to tattoo a number on his arm? I mean...what the Fuk is that all about? How immensely ignorant of your people's history can you be?

http://www.highenergyconstructs.com/...ked%20nazi.JPG

neebone 10-12-10 08:52 AM

Thanks to everyone who had good avice concerning the op. I got what I needed from it so I am done with it. I'm going to go ahead and leave that "d" missing from the word advice so fleabiscuit will have something to do in case he's not trolling in some other thread. I wish I knew Velo Vol thought tattoos were dumb. I never would have gotten a sleeve. Genius post assclown.

@robncircus. I order those arm covers you suggested. Thanks again.

Homebrew01 10-12-10 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by logdrum (Post 11608531)
san bernardino is the most desirable county to work in ca?

a good dba is a good dba. We'll hire him regardless. They are hard to find.

ms sql ?

slowandsteady 10-12-10 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Chef151 (Post 11607837)
Dictionary.com:

1.
to make a distinction in favor of or against a person or thing on the basis of the group, class, or category to which the person or thing belongs rather than according to actual merit; show partiality.

Have you actually read your own posts in this thread? Or maybe you were confused as to the meaning of the word itself?

I didn't realize that "tattooed individual" was a group, class, or category. It certainly isn't recognized as a group by the law and therefore is legal to "discriminate" against as is how a person dresses on a job interview.

mustachiod 10-12-10 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by logdrum (Post 11610227)
The ear thing which make your ears bigger than Gandalf is a bit much for me.

i had to google "Gandalf", i saw alot of picks of an old guy, but his ears were covered with hair in every pic. if you are referring to those ear pucks, i agree. those are just hideous.

Originally Posted by logdrum (Post 11610227)
I also wonder if you get pregnant, how do you deal with belly button piercings.

belly button piercings are usually removed during pregnancy. too high a risk of "stretch and rip" - ouch!

Originally Posted by logdrum (Post 11610227)
If I french kiss someone with a ball bearing on their tongue, will she/he flick her/his tongue hard enough to chip my front teeth.

depends on what you are in to ;)

banerjek 10-12-10 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by Yaniel (Post 11608575)
not to mention a good HR department would know if the applicant has been in prison, which would probably be more frowned upon than "prison tattoos" as the geniuses in this thread like to call them.

It probably depends on the tattoo. I'd imagine teardrops would not be too popular with the HR dept even for someone with no record, particularly at the postal service.

robncircus 10-12-10 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by logdrum (Post 11610227)
The ear thing which make your ears bigger than Gandalf is a bit much for me. I also wonder if you get pregnant, how do you deal with belly button piercings. If I french kiss someone with a ball bearing on their tongue, will she/he flick her/his tongue hard enough to chip my front teeth.

I did the ears for a while. They were like this but bigger:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._6075531_n.jpg

Then I took them out and they became this:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._6649208_n.jpg

And about 5 years ago I got a good plastic surgeon to fix them. Not a fan of the ears :)

Fleabiscuit 10-12-10 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by slowandsteady (Post 11610653)
I didn't realize that "tattooed individual" was a group, class, or category. It certainly isn't recognized as a group by the law and therefore is legal to "discriminate" against as is how a person dresses on a job interview.

Trying to reason or talk sense to morons is a lesson in futility. Your time would be better served trying to negotiate peace in the middle east or solving world hunger...you know, something easier to accomplish.

I wish the young guy with the "sweet" sleeves sweating it out wearing long sleeves at the company picnic, and the tat "artist", knocking out another tramp stamp on some clueless teenager, all the best.

Cheers!

FB

logdrum 10-12-10 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by banerjek (Post 11610933)
It probably depends on the tattoo. I'd imagine teardrops would not be too popular with the HR dept even for someone with no record, particularly at the postal service.

They hire contractors now for mail delivery at least in RR (rural route) address. My "postman" has a tattoo. And really the revised HR books of progressive companies states to not discriminate against tattoos, because they know that at lot have them done during college nowadays. We are old.

banerjek 10-12-10 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by logdrum (Post 11611094)
They hire contractors now for mail delivery at least in RR (rural route) address. My "postman" has a tattoo. And really the revised HR books of progressive companies states to not discriminate against tattoos, because they know that at lot have them done during college nowadays. We are old.

Old need not mean willing to take crazy risks. I take it you are unfamiliar with the meaning of the teardrop.

logdrum 10-12-10 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by banerjek (Post 11611125)
Old need not mean willing to take crazy risks. I take it you are unfamiliar with the meaning of the teardrop.

I know what it means. This is Greater Albuquerque, for a while number one city for the COPS show so we have gangs here too. And yes HR folks probably get schooled on that too. But historically it was not really that (symbol for murdering or membership in some of the Latino gangs). It was a mourning symbol. Just as the swastika is on display without creating apprehension in India as you know. My response was to tattoos in general and the perception that you won't get hired if you had one. My colleague is a DBA with the bushing on his ear and some noticeable ink on his arm. Hired out of college in 2001. He has been promoted too 2 pay grades since then. I was in the interview team and I was told by the HR to look past the ear-ring and ink and just grill him technically.

MDfive21 10-12-10 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by Fleabiscuit (Post 11611026)
Trying to reason or talk sense to morons, such as myself, is a lesson in futility. Your time would be better served trying to negotiate peace in the middle east or solving world hunger...you know, something easier to accomplish.
...

Cheers!

FB

fixed

banerjek 10-12-10 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by logdrum (Post 11611333)
..But historically it was not really that (symbol for murdering or membership in some of the Latino gangs). It was a mourning symbol. Just as the swastika is on display without creating apprehension in India as you know. My response was to tattoos in general and the perception that you won't get hired if you had one. My colleague is a DBA with the bushing on his ear and some noticeable ink on his arm. Hired out of college in 2001. He has been promoted too 2 pay grades since then. I was in the interview team and I was told by the HR to look past the ear-ring and ink and just grill him technically.

Different professions have different standards. Tech professions are far looser about appearances to the point that looking sharp is frowned up. People won't find it strange if I wear tevas, shorts, a Hawaiian shirt, or a leather jacket when I'm on a podium and it seems like most people I work with have ink. But any of these things could hold you back quite a bit in other professions.

The problem is that you need context to make sense out of those things, and first impressions don't give you a chance to deliver context. There are swastikas all over India (actually it appears in many traditions, including Western ones), and only an idiot would connect any of these with Nazism. But I think it's also fair to say that just because some people can pull something off because it's part of their cultural heritage does not mean that others can simply adopt these customs and expect the same treatment.

Yaniel 10-12-10 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by slowandsteady (Post 11610653)
I didn't realize that "tattooed individual" was a group, class, or category. It certainly isn't recognized as a group by the law and therefore is legal to "discriminate" against as is how a person dresses on a job interview.


Originally Posted by Fleabiscuit (Post 11611026)
Trying to reason or talk sense to morons is a lesson in futility. Your time would be better served trying to negotiate peace in the middle east or solving world hunger...you know, something easier to accomplish.

I wish the young guy with the "sweet" sleeves sweating it out wearing long sleeves at the company picnic, and the tat "artist", knocking out another tramp stamp on some clueless teenager, all the best.

Cheers!

FB



oh sorry, I didn't realize discrimination was solely a legal term. I didn't realize it could also have something to do with morals and ethics. By assuming that anyone with a tattoo is a degenerate, you are creating a group. The fact Flea Biscuit discriminates and is a bigot has nothing to do with the law, and everything to do with the fact he's worthless as a human being.

slowandsteady 10-12-10 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Yaniel (Post 11611708)
oh sorry, I didn't realize discrimination was solely a legal term. I didn't realize it could also have something to do with morals and ethics. By assuming that anyone with a tattoo is a degenerate, you are creating a group. The fact Flea Biscuit discriminates and is a bigot has nothing to do with the law, and everything to do with the fact he's worthless as a human being.

It is a legal term. I discriminate when I choose the restaurant that is clean over the one with bugs. I discriminate when I choose a mate that I am attracted to over the one with buck teeth. I discriminate when I decide to promote an individual because they are pleasant, hard working, and showed initiative over the one who comes in late and leaves early.. It is discrimination when they don't let criminals or the severely mentally ill get a gun license. It is called having standards. It isn't unethical.

Not all discrimination is wrong and most isn't illegal for obvious reasons.

I have no issue weeding out people based on behavior, past behavior, and how they decide to present themselves.

Clearly, though discrimination on the basis of things you cannot control(race, creed, color, sex, age) and that have zero bearing on your abilities should be wrong.

Fleabiscuit 10-12-10 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by Yaniel (Post 11611708)
oh sorry, I didn't realize discrimination was solely a legal term. I didn't realize it could also have something to do with morals and ethics. By assuming that anyone with a tattoo is a degenerate, you are creating a group. The fact Flea Biscuit discriminates and is a bigot has nothing to do with the law, and everything to do with the fact he's worthless as a human being.

You should be sorry, sorry for being a complete moron. I never said I discriminated against people with tattoos, at least not any more than the average person in America does. I was merely stating that people with visible ink (sleeves, neck, hand or face tattoos in particular) are giving themselves unnecessary challenges in life. I would not hire the strange looking "white power" facial tattoo guy in the picture (a couple pages ago) to interface with customers. If that makes me a worthless human being and a bigot in your opinion, so be it. Also, at the risk of being called shallow, superficial or worse, I would not hire that Manson guy with the swastika to do work around my house or babysit. If this offends you, please accept my sincerest apologies.

I'm sure there are people who think sleeves, facial, hand and neck tattoos are cool. I would just advise against them unless you are old enough to understand the consequences of your actions. Expecting the world to overlook the appearance of someone with visible tats is honorable in some regards but, IMO, is naive and unrealistic. Advising a young person that visible tats are not going to affect employment prospects is irresponsible and, IMO, immoral. Especially if you make money (as the earlier poster who attacked me personally) as a tattoo artist.

That's all. Please feel free to continue the attacks.

Cheers,

FB

Starchalopakis 10-12-10 12:46 PM

I think im going to get a fleabiscuit tattoo

MDfive21 10-12-10 12:58 PM

none of this argument has anything to do with the OP, which is whether tattoos are damaged by road rash.

it's sad that tattoo threads degenerate into the same you vs me mudslinging that the gun threads do.

take it to P&R and let the tattooed cyclists have a reasonable discussion.

slowandsteady 10-12-10 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by MDfive21 (Post 11612179)
none of this argument has anything to do with the OP, which is whether tattoos are damaged by road rash.

it's sad that tattoo threads degenerate into the same you vs me mudslinging that the gun threads do.

take it to P&R and let the tattooed cyclists have a reasonable discussion.


Answer: Yes, tattoos can be damaged by road rash

Tattoos involve the injection of ink intradermally. Any injury to the skin deep enough to affect this inked layer will permanently alter the tattoo.


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