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Yaniel 10-12-10 04:19 PM
Originally Posted by Fleabiscuit (Post 11611902)
You should be sorry, sorry for being a complete moron. I never said I discriminated against people with tattoos, at least not any more than the average person in America does. I was merely stating that people with visible ink (sleeves, neck, hand or face tattoos in particular) are giving themselves unnecessary challenges in life. I would not hire the strange looking "white power" facial tattoo guy in the picture (a couple pages ago) to interface with customers. If that makes me a worthless human being and a bigot in your opinion, so be it. Also, at the risk of being called shallow, superficial or worse, I would not hire that Manson guy with the swastika to do work around my house or babysit. If this offends you, please accept my sincerest apologies.

I'm sure there are people who think sleeves, facial, hand and neck tattoos are cool. I would just advise against them unless you are old enough to understand the consequences of your actions. Expecting the world to overlook the appearance of someone with visible tats is honorable in some regards but, IMO, is naive and unrealistic. Advising a young person that visible tats are not going to affect employment prospects is irresponsible and, IMO, immoral. Especially if you make money (as the earlier poster who attacked me personally) as a tattoo artist.

That's all. Please feel free to continue the attacks.

Cheers,

FB

big·ot

noun \ˈbi-gət\
Definition of BIGOT

: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

I think it fits pretty well. You're insulting all the members on BF that have tattoos without knowing who they are or what they've accomplished in life. You're making condescending and ignorant remarks to Hammy about his profession (without having the courage to state what you do), and anyone that doesn't agree with you is a moron. Now go to a tattoo shop and let everyone know how you feel. I bet you won't be as tough without the keyboard and monitor.

Starchalopakis 10-12-10 05:31 PM
He probably doesn't have a job.

Fleabiscuit 10-12-10 05:59 PM
Originally Posted by Starchalopakis (Post 11613479)
He probably doesn't have a job.
I have a job! If you have to know, I roll cigars with Yaniel in Miami, mang.

ciocc_cat 10-12-10 05:59 PM
Originally Posted by JoeyBike (Post 11589310)
I'll do it then.

Corporate Dress Codes and tattoos

A study by Careerbuilders shows the perils of tattoos for aspiring professionals, and confirms the conventional wisdom that tattoos are a sign of immaturity, bad judgment and bad taste:
  • Over 42 percent of managers said their opinion of someone would be lowered by that person's visible body art. Personally, I think that the actual figure is much higher.
  • Three out of four respondents believe that visible tattoos are unprofessional.
You don't have look hard to find hundreds of corporations which have banned employees with tattoos. San Bernardino County California, bars all employees from wearing denim, having visible tattoos, and any piercing in the nose, lip, or tongue that contains jewelry.
In sum, tattoos send a message to corporate America that you are ignorant, low-income, that you have have bad taste, and worst of all, that you may have a criminal record.


From http://www.dba-oracle.com/dress_code_tattoos.htm



Ink up boys and girls. Makes landing a nice job easier for the rest of us.
Verrrrry interesting. I'm a member of "Corporate America" and a little ink hasn't prevented me from hiring anyone so far. When I'm interviewing a candidate, I look for the "best fit" education/experience/attitude, not (shallow) appearances. FYI - my company is an ENR Top 500 consulting engineering firm.

Edit - I still wouldn't get a tat myself, but that's because I have a serious aversion to needles (read phobia). It was hard enough just getting a piercing!

Fleabiscuit 10-12-10 07:15 PM
Originally Posted by Fleabiscuit (Post 11613593)
I have a job! If you have to know, unroll cigars with Yaniel in Miami.
Originally Posted by x43x (Post 11613871)
I found some reference material for you

http://www.the-games-blog.com/wp-con...ark-wow-01.jpg
I don't wear glasses.

tallmantim 10-12-10 08:06 PM
Originally Posted by marcosbullock (Post 11586262)
Since we're posting pics.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...andom/twtt.jpg
I've yet to meet anyone else with this as a tattoo. If supporting my heritage makes me a herd animal or a person unworthy to work for you then so be it. I could care less what people think of what I do with my body.

P.S. I'll probably only get one other tattoo. It will be the M-Dot when I've earned it.
What a coincidence dude!

I got 138 tatooed to my arm too!

tallmantim 10-12-10 08:13 PM
Originally Posted by Fleabiscuit (Post 11611902)
You should be sorry, sorry for being a complete moron. I never said I discriminated against people with tattoos, at least not any more than the average person in America does. I was merely stating that people with visible ink (sleeves, neck, hand or face tattoos in particular) are giving themselves unnecessary challenges in life. I would not hire the strange looking "white power" facial tattoo guy in the picture (a couple pages ago) to interface with customers. If that makes me a worthless human being and a bigot in your opinion, so be it. Also, at the risk of being called shallow, superficial or worse, I would not hire that Manson guy with the swastika to do work around my house or babysit. If this offends you, please accept my sincerest apologies.

I'm sure there are people who think sleeves, facial, hand and neck tattoos are cool. I would just advise against them unless you are old enough to understand the consequences of your actions. Expecting the world to overlook the appearance of someone with visible tats is honorable in some regards but, IMO, is naive and unrealistic. Advising a young person that visible tats are not going to affect employment prospects is irresponsible and, IMO, immoral. Especially if you make money (as the earlier poster who attacked me personally) as a tattoo artist.

That's all. Please feel free to continue the attacks.

Cheers,

FB
+1 - like it or not, facial tats in particular are well outside of societal norms - neck and hand tats slightly less so. Sleeves are not a problem for you if you wear a business shirt.

Traditional corporate environments are extremely "norming" places. Particularly for consulting, sales etc where you will come into outside people. In many places you don't want to wear a tie that is too loud let alone mark yourself as even more of an outsider.

This culture is changing however in many verticals. Where I am in banking and finance however it is still conservative.

Yaniel 10-12-10 08:14 PM
Originally Posted by Fleabiscuit (Post 11613593)
I have a job! If you have to know, I roll cigars with Yaniel in Miami, mang.
I wish. The one family in cigars I know down here are multi-millionaires. Some of the family members even have tattoos. ::gasp:: But like usual, you're deflecting. Love to take jabs at people, but aren't man enough to admit anything.

Yaniel 10-12-10 08:18 PM
Originally Posted by tallmantim (Post 11614213)
+1 - like it or not, facial tats in particular are well outside of societal norms - neck and hand tats slightly less so. Sleeves are not a problem for you if you wear a business shirt.

Traditional corporate environments are extremely "norming" places. Particularly for consulting, sales etc where you will come into outside people. In many places you don't want to wear a tie that is too loud let alone mark yourself as even more of an outsider.

This culture is changing however in many verticals. Where I am in banking and finance however it is still conservative.
I don't know why everyone keeps bringing up facial tattoos, this thread is about sleeves. Facial tattoos are still extremely rare and generally taboo, but that's not what was being asked about in this thread. For any interest, hobby, etc, the extreme cases are usually not well received. That goes from stamp collecting, to anything you can imagine.

tallmantim 10-12-10 08:33 PM
Originally Posted by Yaniel (Post 11614238)
I don't know why everyone keeps bringing up facial tattoos, this thread is about sleeves. Facial tattoos are still extremely rare and generally taboo, but that's not what was being asked about in this thread. For any interest, hobby, etc, the extreme cases are usually not well received. That goes from stamp collecting, to anything you can imagine.
I was responding to what was written with the point being (that was probably not very well spelt out) that sleeves should not be an issue in the corporate world. What's under your suit is your private space.

Chef151 10-13-10 05:01 AM
Originally Posted by Fleabiscuit (Post 11601637)
I've never discriminated against anyone in my life. I think discrimination for any reason is wrong and I would never be friends with someone who discriminates.
I never said I discriminated against people with tattoos, at least not any more than the average person in America does.
Glad you cleared that up for yourself.

So to sum it up: you admittedly discriminate against and prejudge people while hiding behind the "I'm an average American" (ie old, white, conservative) curtain, you deflect when asked about your own life and job as it relates to the discussion while putting down others occupations, and you resort to ad hominum attacks when your arguments are challenged.

Yaniel 10-13-10 08:07 AM
Originally Posted by tallmantim (Post 11614303)
I was responding to what was written with the point being (that was probably not very well spelt out) that sleeves should not be an issue in the corporate world. What's under your suit is your private space.

yea, i know. I just used yours as the quote because it was the most recent to mention facial tattoos.

kaliayev 10-13-10 03:49 PM
Originally Posted by Starchalopakis (Post 11612105)
I think im going to get a fleabiscuit tattoo
...on your penis no doubt.

stevegor 10-14-10 01:21 AM
Can we have less girly slapping and more pics please?

mustachiod 10-15-10 12:59 PM
how about this pic?

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=21212

slowandsteady 10-15-10 02:00 PM
Now that is classy.

stevegor 10-15-10 05:18 PM
Originally Posted by mustachiod (Post 11627739)
"That's what I'm talking about"............

ahsposo 10-15-10 05:26 PM
Originally Posted by mustachiod (Post 11627739)
Do it like this.

Go advanced.

Right click on the image and Copy Image Location

Menu above message box select the one to the right of the envelope.

Paste.

http://media.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-...10/10/1972.jpg

Voila!

FlatSix911 10-15-10 07:15 PM
Originally Posted by stevegor (Post 11620183)
Can we have less girly slapping and more pics please?
http://65.54.229.249/att/GetInline.a...a70&oneredir=1

http://65.54.229.249/att/GetInline.a...e72&oneredir=1

http://65.54.229.249/att/GetInline.a...6e0&oneredir=1


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