Tattoos
10-07-10 | 09:44 PM
#101
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10-07-10 | 09:46 PM
#102
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When I first saw this, I knew it bugged me for some reason, but it took a couple hours for it to click. Getting a tattoo supporting Jewish heritage is like celebrating a period of sobriety by gettin' good and likker'd up. Did you have a BLT to celebrate the completion of your Jewish tattoo as well?
Also, you seem to have made a spelling error- there is no word in Hebrew spelled aleph-chet-shin-hay....
10-07-10 | 10:02 PM
#103
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The only Jewish heritage about tattoos is the one that involves numbers on the left forearm- and believe me, those were not obtained by choice! The whole idea is highly offensive, to say the least (and asur d'oraita, if you know anything about "Jewish heritage").
Also, you seem to have made a spelling error- there is no word in Hebrew spelled aleph-chet-shin-hay....
Also, you seem to have made a spelling error- there is no word in Hebrew spelled aleph-chet-shin-hay....
Which is interpreted in Jewish theology as meaning tattoos = no, and (with the aforementioned numbers excluded) denial of burial in a Jewish cemetery.
10-07-10 | 10:20 PM
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Corporate Dress Codes and tattoos
A study by Careerbuilders shows the perils of tattoos for aspiring professionals, and confirms the conventional wisdom that tattoos are a sign of immaturity, bad judgment and bad taste:
- Over 42 percent of managers said their opinion of someone would be lowered by that person's visible body art. Personally, I think that the actual figure is much higher.
- Three out of four respondents believe that visible tattoos are unprofessional.
In sum, tattoos send a message to corporate America that you are ignorant, low-income, that you have have bad taste, and worst of all, that you may have a criminal record.
From https://www.dba-oracle.com/dress_code_tattoos.htm
Ink up boys and girls. Makes landing a nice job easier for the rest of us.
10-08-10 | 01:29 AM
#107
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haha yes. wear arm warmers even at 100 degree temps. gotta protect your "investment". im not pokin fun seriously it's just a tough thing to juggle with cycling. i understand tats look sweet and shouldn't hinder your hobbies. but you take the risk. i know a guy who is in the process of healing a sleave. i'll let you know how it goes. my cat 5 scars have only recently become invisible after 2+ years. under armour and sleaves. a MUST. i can't imagine what i would have to deal with if i had a very discriptive coi fish on my forarm.
10-08-10 | 02:16 AM
#108
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10-08-10 | 09:56 AM
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The only Jewish heritage about tattoos is the one that involves numbers on the left forearm- and believe me, those were not obtained by choice! The whole idea is highly offensive, to say the least (and asur d'oraita, if you know anything about "Jewish heritage").
Also, you seem to have made a spelling error- there is no word in Hebrew spelled aleph-chet-shin-hay....
Also, you seem to have made a spelling error- there is no word in Hebrew spelled aleph-chet-shin-hay....
10-08-10 | 10:17 AM
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Slowandsteady,
I worked for a medical device company in sales and management, Enterprise as a high level employee, and have held other high end sales jobs with sleeves. No biggy. Most of the places I worked for made us wear long sleeves anyways. I will have to say, neck and hands are job killers.
I now own a successful business of my own. I truly think some people that show up to my studio/shop are a bit surprised when they see my arms. A few minutes with me, my knowledge and professionalism supersedes my tatttoos.
I have crashed on my left arm. It did lighten up the color a little. No big deal. I am almost 40, so I really don't care.
A little embarassed about my weight in this pic but here I am from about a month ago. I won't do my legs (my wife likes them sexy and clean!).
I worked for a medical device company in sales and management, Enterprise as a high level employee, and have held other high end sales jobs with sleeves. No biggy. Most of the places I worked for made us wear long sleeves anyways. I will have to say, neck and hands are job killers.
I now own a successful business of my own. I truly think some people that show up to my studio/shop are a bit surprised when they see my arms. A few minutes with me, my knowledge and professionalism supersedes my tatttoos.
I have crashed on my left arm. It did lighten up the color a little. No big deal. I am almost 40, so I really don't care.
A little embarassed about my weight in this pic but here I am from about a month ago. I won't do my legs (my wife likes them sexy and clean!).
That's fine. But I personally would not want to limit my attire to long sleeves all the time. I live in the NE and when it is 100 degrees and humid, it is nice to have the flexibility to wear short sleeves to work and still look professional.
My point is this. A person cannot reasonably expect to do something to make themselves stand out, then complain when that exact thing makes them stand out. I personally want to stand out for the quality of my work, not for what permanent ink injections I put on my body. I am not saying it is right, but it is a reality that you are limiting yourself and your career prospects. With this economy that probably isn't a good idea.
10-08-10 | 10:37 AM
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That's fine. But I personally would not want to limit my attire to long sleeves all the time. I live in the NE and when it is 100 degrees and humid, it is nice to have the flexibility to wear short sleeves to work and still look professional.
My point is this. A person cannot reasonably expect to do something to make themselves stand out, then complain when that exact thing makes them stand out. I personally want to stand out for the quality of my work, not for what permanent ink injections I put on my body. I am not saying it is right, but it is a reality that you are limiting yourself and your career prospects. With this economy that probably isn't a good idea.
My point is this. A person cannot reasonably expect to do something to make themselves stand out, then complain when that exact thing makes them stand out. I personally want to stand out for the quality of my work, not for what permanent ink injections I put on my body. I am not saying it is right, but it is a reality that you are limiting yourself and your career prospects. With this economy that probably isn't a good idea.
There is no question in my mind people look at you differently when you have sleeves. I have had mine so long I just don't notice it any longer. I am almost 40, own my own business and if that ever failed at that I would probably go to work as a garbage man or something anyways. I don't have much drive for the corporate world any more. Forever all I wanted was a company car and 120k a yr which I had for a long time. Now I am happy with my small business, bikes and a roof over my head. I am the happiest I have ever been.
10-08-10 | 10:56 AM
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I am not arguing with you at all. I think if I went to a job interview wearing a short sleeve shirt to apply for a high end job, my chances would all but be lost. Although, anyone who goes to a job interview in a shortsleeve shirt is probably applying for a position at the No Fear store in the mall, not as a rep for a biotech company.
There is no question in my mind people look at you differently when you have sleeves. I have had mine so long I just don't notice it any longer. I am almost 40, own my own business and if that ever failed at that I would probably go to work as a garbage man or something anyways. I don't have much drive for the corporate world any more. Forever all I wanted was a company car and 120k a yr which I had for a long time. Now I am happy with my small business, bikes and a roof over my head. I am the happiest I have ever been.
There is no question in my mind people look at you differently when you have sleeves. I have had mine so long I just don't notice it any longer. I am almost 40, own my own business and if that ever failed at that I would probably go to work as a garbage man or something anyways. I don't have much drive for the corporate world any more. Forever all I wanted was a company car and 120k a yr which I had for a long time. Now I am happy with my small business, bikes and a roof over my head. I am the happiest I have ever been.
10-08-10 | 11:24 AM
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If you get ANY tattoo, it involves a decision making process. "Do I want this on my body...Forever?" "Can I cover it up if I have to?" Clearly, basic questions, but important ones none the less. I understand how my tattoos look to people who are older than I am and who have a different set of standards and that's completely fine. What's right for me may not be right for you. However, making the statement that EVERYONE else in the world, be they in a professional setting or around your home town, has the same opinion on people with tattoos is absurd. Tattoo's are something I have always wanted since I was really young. Some people tan their bodies year round in tanning beds, some work out constantly to achieve perfect symmetry and muscle definition...I get tattoos. It comes down to what your perception of what the "perfect body" is. It's relative. If you're out to cover your arms, legs, chest, etc, with tattoos, then you have to be willing to cover it all up when you go to find a job. I'm fine with that and accepted it a long time ago. I'm willing to bend and conform, to a certain extent, what society expects of me. This thread, while entertaining and interesting, should be a non-issue as the OP didn't intend for it to become what it has. It should also be a non-issue because, quite frankly, who cares? Tattoos or not, leave it alone. Like it or not, leave it alone. It's not your body, it's not your choice.
.end rant. Thanks for listening.
.end rant. Thanks for listening.
10-08-10 | 12:15 PM
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10-08-10 | 12:17 PM
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10-08-10 | 07:16 PM
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This is a true story. You can take it or leave it.
An old friend of mine was a famous airbrush artist in New Orleans. He worked for a short time in a tattoo parlor but didn't really like it. His best story was about tattooing gangstas monikers on their foreheads. When completed they would look in the mirror and start screaming at him for writing it backwards.
An old friend of mine was a famous airbrush artist in New Orleans. He worked for a short time in a tattoo parlor but didn't really like it. His best story was about tattooing gangstas monikers on their foreheads. When completed they would look in the mirror and start screaming at him for writing it backwards.
10-08-10 | 09:42 PM
#121
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That's fine. But I personally would not want to limit my attire to long sleeves all the time. I live in the NE and when it is 100 degrees and humid, it is nice to have the flexibility to wear short sleeves to work and still look professional.
My point is this. A person cannot reasonably expect to do something to make themselves stand out, then complain when that exact thing makes them stand out. I personally want to stand out for the quality of my work, not for what permanent ink injections I put on my body. I am not saying it is right, but it is a reality that you are limiting yourself and your career prospects. With this economy that probably isn't a good idea.
My point is this. A person cannot reasonably expect to do something to make themselves stand out, then complain when that exact thing makes them stand out. I personally want to stand out for the quality of my work, not for what permanent ink injections I put on my body. I am not saying it is right, but it is a reality that you are limiting yourself and your career prospects. With this economy that probably isn't a good idea.
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10-08-10 | 09:51 PM
#122
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Slowandsteady,
I worked for a medical device company in sales and management, Enterprise as a high level employee, and have held other high end sales jobs with sleeves. No biggy. Most of the places I worked for made us wear long sleeves anyways. I will have to say, neck and hands are job killers.
I now own a successful business of my own. I truly think some people that show up to my studio/shop are a bit surprised when they see my arms. A few minutes with me, my knowledge and professionalism supersedes my tatttoos.
I have crashed on my left arm. It did lighten up the color a little. No big deal. I am almost 40, so I really don't care.
A little embarassed about my weight in this pic but here I am from about a month ago. I won't do my legs (my wife likes them sexy and clean!).
I worked for a medical device company in sales and management, Enterprise as a high level employee, and have held other high end sales jobs with sleeves. No biggy. Most of the places I worked for made us wear long sleeves anyways. I will have to say, neck and hands are job killers.
I now own a successful business of my own. I truly think some people that show up to my studio/shop are a bit surprised when they see my arms. A few minutes with me, my knowledge and professionalism supersedes my tatttoos.
I have crashed on my left arm. It did lighten up the color a little. No big deal. I am almost 40, so I really don't care.
A little embarassed about my weight in this pic but here I am from about a month ago. I won't do my legs (my wife likes them sexy and clean!).
Good grief.
10-08-10 | 09:57 PM
#123
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This is a true story. You can take it or leave it.
An old friend of mine was a famous airbrush artist in New Orleans. He worked for a short time in a tattoo parlor but didn't really like it. His best story was about tattooing gangstas monikers on their foreheads. When completed they would look in the mirror and start screaming at him for writing it backwards.
An old friend of mine was a famous airbrush artist in New Orleans. He worked for a short time in a tattoo parlor but didn't really like it. His best story was about tattooing gangstas monikers on their foreheads. When completed they would look in the mirror and start screaming at him for writing it backwards.
10-09-10 | 07:45 AM
#124
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currently, more than half of people between the ages 18 and 30 have at least one tattoo
things change, tattoos aren't a big deal anymore, the few people that think they are will either be out of the workforce or dead in a couple decades anyway
bad tattoos are a big deal, because they show you're a dumbass
things change, tattoos aren't a big deal anymore, the few people that think they are will either be out of the workforce or dead in a couple decades anyway
bad tattoos are a big deal, because they show you're a dumbass
10-09-10 | 01:14 PM
#125
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The guy at Jiffy Lube who changed my oil yesterday had some awesome neck tats and a cool (although somewhat home-made looking) sleeve. I guess he'd better get used to turtle neck sweaters and arm warmers if he hopes to be CEO. Maybe he can be chairman of a company with HQ in a cold climate.
One look at that sweet scorpion tat on his neck (or was it a crab?) and I instantly understood why the pain, expense and lost income not to mention lost employment potential was all worth it. You can't put a price on artwork, especially if it's in the form of a sweet scorpion (lobster?) on ones neck.
This thread has been enlightening. Bravo!
One look at that sweet scorpion tat on his neck (or was it a crab?) and I instantly understood why the pain, expense and lost income not to mention lost employment potential was all worth it. You can't put a price on artwork, especially if it's in the form of a sweet scorpion (lobster?) on ones neck.
This thread has been enlightening. Bravo!