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Fluid trainer - wildly different gearing?

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Old 10-20-10 | 08:20 PM
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Fluid trainer - wildly different gearing?

I've been doing my indoor workouts on a 20-year-old Racermate wind trainer. The bearings are starting to go, so I jumped into the 21st century and bought a fluid trainer.

On my old wind trainer my RPE, HR and "speed" matched up pretty well with what I experience on the road, at least for tempo-like efforts. But I'm finding that the effort level on the fluid trainer is waaaaay off from what I'm used to. It seems like I need to be about three to four teeth larger in back to get my RPE and HR to match, and even then my "speed" is several MPH lower than I would expect. Also, it seems like I'm getting a lot more leg burn on the fluid trainer for a given cadence and speed than I would expect.

Is this common - this need to drop a few gears when you are on a fluid trainer? Or is there something else going on I haven't considered?
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Old 10-20-10 | 08:40 PM
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They have different types of resistance. Get your RPE, Heartrate, cadence and/or power to where you want and don't worry about the gearing.
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Old 10-20-10 | 08:41 PM
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Wind trainers have WAY less resistance than fluid trainers, all you have are those tiny little fans and wind resistance.
I had a wind trainer before I got a heart rate monitor, but it never seemed to give a realistic workout, I could spin out
in my top gear, not nearly hitting max effort.

I bought a Kurt Kenetic it matches my real world speed/HR really well. I did a sprint on it when I first got it and was
really pushing it at 34 mph and was still 2 cogs from my smallest in back, so it seems pretty dead on.
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Old 10-20-10 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by gbg
Wind trainers have WAY less resistance than fluid trainers, all you have are those tiny little fans and wind resistance.
I had a wind trainer before I got a heart rate monitor, but it never seemed to give a realistic workout, I could spin out
in my top gear, not nearly hitting max effort.

I bought a Kurt Kenetic it matches my real world speed/HR really well. I did a sprint on it when I first got it and was
really pushing it at 34 mph and was still 2 cogs from my smallest in back, so it seems pretty dead on.
34mph on your KK? Wow. The most I've done is 26.4 and that took a tremendous amount of effort on my part. I've never stood up on my trainer yet though.
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Old 10-20-10 | 10:23 PM
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34mph on your KK? Wow. The most I've done is 26.4 and that took a tremendous amount of effort on my part. I've never stood up on my trainer yet though.
You can get it up to 34mph+, but you have to spin pretty fast on the largest gear on a standard. Weirdly, the maximum resistance on the KK/Cycleops2 isn't so high that I can readily stand on it - it seems to "give" too easily, so I can't push lots of wattage at a very low cadence to maintain speed. However, it's really hard to spin it up at high rpms at big gearing.

It's still helped my climbing regardless. Definitely a keeper, and will improve your road riding if you keep at it. HIGHLY recommend spinervals as well - I'm not into gimmicky workout fads/dvds, but Spinervals is legit, and will keep you completely focused. You can't get bored - you'll be too busy surviving the workout!

Love the "Mental Toughness" 90 minute workout. That's 90 mins of mixed hi-intensity intervals!
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