Originally Posted by umd (Post 11857691)

I wasn't there. Was the OP an ass for tailgaiting?

Originally Posted by Snapperhead (Post 11857711)

A brief read of many of the replies on this thread will give you that answer.

Originally Posted by Snapperhead (Post 11857711)

Look, I don’t like folks I don’t know riding up on my ass and drafting or whatever any more than the next guy/gal. But I still have enough sense to not want anyone to get hurt because I felt put out for a few seconds.

Originally Posted by Hermes (Post 11856786)

And.... Where were you looking at the time?

Originally Posted by umd (Post 11857727)

You have an opinion about the two ahead, so I want to know what you think of the OP's own actions.

You are still missing the point.

Originally Posted by Snapperhead (Post 11857760)

Well maybe if you'd tell me the point then I wouldn't miss it. BTW, what if I was calling you an ass?! :D

Originally Posted by Snapperhead (Post 11857760)

Well maybe if you'd tell me the point then I wouldn't miss it.

Originally Posted by Snapperhead (Post 11857760)

BTW, what if I was calling you an ass?! :D

Originally Posted by Snapperhead (Post 11857482)

OP, I hope by now you've realized that you shouldn't expect any common courtesy from anyone on a bike. Actually, after reading through most of this thread, I don’t think I’d expect any common courtesy from most of these folks anytime at all!

That being said, if it were me, I would've alerted you to the potholes, it was just the right thing to do.

Originally Posted by umd (Post 11857782)

Then I would report you.

Originally Posted by umd (Post 11857782)

The point has been repeated many times in the thread, but in it's simplest form, it can be summarized by, "different people have different thresholds for pointing crap out."

Originally Posted by umd (Post 11857782)

Then I would report you.

Originally Posted by StephenH (Post 11857818)

If you don't expect "common" courtesy from anyone, then what you're expecting does not seem to be common- you're expecting uncommon courtesy. If I'm driving my car down the freeway, I don't expect people in front of me to point out potholes as they drive. If they do, that's fine, but it's not expected and not common.

Originally Posted by travkat (Post 11850675)

Had an interesting experience today while riding in my new local area of North San Diego County. I am still new to the area and as such don't know all the roads well. Today on my ride down the coast while descending a small grade I caught up with two cyclists. Due to traffic and parked cars I didn't try to pass as it was unsafe and I didn't need to speed by. So here is my beef. I let the riders know I was behind them and made eye contact etc. Once we reached the bottom of the hill both riders split to avoid a giant set of potholes and neither one pointed it out. I ended up almost eating asphalt at 27mph due to a lack of common cycling etiquette. Am I wrong in thinking it was kind of lame on the part of the cyclists up front?

Originally Posted by Snapperhead (Post 11857839)

And that's just where we disagree. On a bike, I'd expect someone to use common courtesy and point out a hole in the road that might cause me to crash. I only expect it because I know I would do it myself regardless of the situation.

Originally Posted by StephenH (Post 11857818)

If I'm driving my car down the freeway, I don't expect people in front of me to point out potholes as they drive. If they do, that's fine, but it's not expected and not common.

Originally Posted by Snapperhead (Post 11857826)

It wasn't crap, it was hole in the freaking road.

Originally Posted by urbanknight (Post 11857821)

So your famous quote should be changed to say "you can say ass, but you can't call someone an ass"

Originally Posted by Snapperhead (Post 11857826)

I'm sorry, I didn't realize we were posting in the 1st graders forum.

Originally Posted by kimconyc (Post 11857853)

I wouldn't have called out the hole if you were not riding with me.

Does everyone here call out holes and yell, "stopping" when riding by yourselves?

Originally Posted by Snapperhead (Post 11857826)

I'm sorry, I didn't realize we were posting in the 1st graders forum.

Originally Posted by Snapperhead (Post 11857839)

And that's just where we disagree. On a bike, I'd expect someone to use common courtesy and point out a hole in the road that might cause me to crash. I only expect it because I know I would do it myself regardless of the situation.

Originally Posted by Nerull (Post 11857863)

So. You're going down a hill pretty fast. All of a sudden a set of potholes comes up. You swerve to avoid them. Now, while you're busy swerving for your life, there might possibly be someone behind you. Do you take a hand off the bars, putting yourself in danger, to warn them? Or are you kind of busy trying not to crash yourself?

Originally Posted by kimconyc (Post 11857878)

Also, OP, did you manage to call/point out the "hole" for the person behind you?

If not, you are entirely part of the bike-weenie circle jerk hypocrisy.

Originally Posted by Nerull (Post 11857934)

Also, when people start swerving, I personally take that as a clue there might be something there. Perhaps you should too.

Originally Posted by Nerull (Post 11857934)

Also, when people start swerving, I personally take that as a clue there might be something there. Perhaps you should too.