Extremely low weight frame options
 

What are the options? Cost and weight too pls.

Parlee Z5 SL
Cervelo R5ca and R5
Pinarello Dogma
Wilier?
Scott Addict R1
Guru Photon

For the frames that have integrated seat posts, can you help me understand what the weight differences are on an apples to apples basis?

Parlee & Gure.
Forget the rest.

As for cost & weight of each?

http://tinyurl.com/6beuvzq

Regarding your picture, this information is not easily googled. The manufacturers purposely avoid posting weights. Also, no good information on how to compare frames with integrated seatposts.

A) http://weightweenies.starbike.com/li...ype=roadframes

B) http://tinyurl.com/6l4cfvf ------> First link: http://www.trisports.com/scott-addict-r1.html

Scott Addict R1 Road Frame Set
Frame weight: 790 grams
Regular price: $2,999.95

Took me all of .26 seconds.

(works for me) :D

Having purchased a new frameset this summer, I was doing quite a bit of research on the guru photon, parlee z5, cervelos and various addict models.

I've seen a few reports of guru photons developing cracks. Only a few, but how many of them are out there. Also, depending on the frame size, once you get above a 54cm, they're not "superlight" anymore.
I've only read of 1 problem with a parlee z5, I was saving for one until I found a scott addict sl frameset for less than 1500. That was, without a doubt, as good a price to weight ratio as I was going to get- the frame came in at 810g (54cm) and the fork was under 300g once I cut the steerer tube. Since I previously had a scott cr1 sl, it was a no brainer.

I test rode the cervelo r3sl and was unimpressed, especially for the price. But, this is what worked for me. The other frame mentioned never came to mind- I'm too much of a weight weenie and they were too heavy (and too expensive)-- besides, the ride of the addict is incredible- so much better than the cr1 sl.

Are you planning to use the bike for only climbing?

Weight of your built Addict?

Why you would include a Pinarello of any sort or a Wilier is completely beyond me. Super six is significantly lighter. Other custom options like a Crumpton SL are great too

You have a target weight in mind for the finished bike?

Might want to include the Storck Fascenario 0.7 or 0.6 on your list.

scott addict end of search!

Low frame weight and Dogma do not go hand in hand.

Is weight the only thing you're considering? Because ride quality is "kinda" important too.

who said anything about riding the bloody thing? ;)

I didn't know you had a Ti frame? ;)

Indeed. Well it should be comfortable enough to get you to the coffee shop.

;)

Looks like the Guru gets some bad reviews as far as quality goes.
Complaints of breakage and refusal of Guru to honor warranty.

but you can't measure/quantify ride quality.

Most coffee shops don't meet my standards - I make my own espresso at home. The bike only needs to hang on the wall in my loft/converted warehouse space. Frame color is important - must complement the Basquiat on the wall perpendicular.

OT, but yeah, me too...Bustelo for me. :D

Crumpton SL - I think around $4K, weight will vary on what you tell Nick you want
Ibis Silk SL (in clear coat, i.e. not the red or green) - $1700, come in around 850-8750 grams for the 55cm

The rest was BS, but I actually am a coffee super snob.

I roll "old school"! :D ------> http://www.grupogangas.es/images/cafetera%209.jpg

Strongest sub-1000 gram frame?

I'm thinking of the CR1 as my next frame. What do you like better about the addict?

I have recently acquired a new contact and local Bike builder with his own stuff. You can't buy from him directly (I don't believe), you can certainly get in touch with him and he can tell you more. Totally great guy to deal with. (edit: His name is Tom)

http://superiorlitebikes.com/slproframe.php

This is the the one I am eying up for an eventual purchase.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=188938

Just butting in, but the new CR1 is a more relaxed frame than the Addict. The old CR1 is sort of the predecessor of the Addict - it used to be the top of the line race frame.

I had the old CR1 Sl, now have an Addict R3 and a Parlee Z4. The '06 CR1 Sl was absolutely brilliant climbing and descending. I remember several distinct occasions climbing with the CR1 when I just laughed out loud, thinking that this was ridiculously easy. With the massive cross section front fork, it was an equally brilliant descender. Problem was, I wrapped the derailleur around the back end when the chain separated on one side of a link.

My '09 Addict is almost as good a ride, and appears to be a lot sturdier carbon build. The Parlee is even more impressive, in terms of build quality, but doesn't have the vibrancy of the Addict frame. I've ridden a Storck Absolutist 0.9 and I thought that the ride quality was terrible - like a block of wood.

If I was buying a light frame today, I'd like to try a C-Dale Super Six. From discussions with others, the ride quality is close to that of the Addict, and the carbon build quality appears to be much better. But I'd be tempted by an Addict R15, especially the 2010 white/gray model.

Right now, I'm interested in a cyclocross type frame, probably titanium, and I'd prefer to have disc brakes. But that's a different story.

I was going to ask what about the SuperSix HiMOD.
Since you did, I'll kick back and see if anyone has anything to offer.

You might check reviews of the frames by competitive cyclist on youtube or their website. I know they have a video review for the Wilier Cento1 SL.