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Old 03-15-11, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by lazerzxr
If you have 800 miles of training in under 3 months and have just done a century I am not at all surprised you have ITB pain. ITB problems dont heel easily once they take hold they just get worse. They are an over use injury caused by doing too much without enough training. Trust me, been there and done that. Unless you want a year off the bike doing physio and watching your mates enjoy their bikes I'd ease up a bit now. Two years after getting ITB trouble I still have issues and would love to go back and take it easy while I could.

No point making the distances sound good if the reality is that the training isn't there.
+1 on this. It's been 14 months since my ITB injury - from running - and I'm still not at my pre-injury pace. Then achilles tendonitis......it goes on and on....
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Too bad that measuring "average fun" for a ride is not as easy as measuring "average speed". Might make for interesting questions on BF...


"Dear roadies,

I trained my butt off for teh last two years, and finally completed a century in 5 hours! I hooked up with a group of 8 guys and we stayed together and ran a paceline for the entire ride. We were all pretty evenly matched, and ended up taking about the same number of turns. It was a local charity ride through some really nice country, and from what I was told, the scenery was great. I heard they even had some great rest stops.

What I saw for about four and a half hours was my front wheel and the ass of the guy I was following. The rest of the time I was pulling the group, looking for rocks, potholes, and weaving Team-in-Training jerseys.

Nobody got yelled at . It was fun.

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A couple of things:
1. Ride and train the way you want to ride. As many have said above, if you're not going to race then you simply need to be fast and fit enough to complete the mileage you want to complete in a given period of time. So if you want to do a century at 15 mph, can you stay in the saddle for 7 hours? Take lots of long rides.

2. You said you have a triple an ride mostly in the middle ring. I too have a triple (wish I would have got a double, but that's another post) and I too used to ride mostly in the middle ring. However, over time I got stronger and found that I was far more efficient in the big ring. I still spin at 90-100 rpm, but in a higher gear. The other benefits are that the chain is straighter since I am in the middle of the rear cluster and shifter down to the middle gear is a easier shift than up to the big gear.
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Originally Posted by RacerOne
It's really all about pain and how much you can stand.
Maybe in a race between cyclists of equivalent ability and bike specs it is. For everyone else time and intensity in the saddle over the longhaul matter much more.
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Originally Posted by pjuarez
A couple of things:2. You said you have a triple an ride mostly in the middle ring. I too have a triple (wish I would have got a double, but that's another post) and I too used to ride mostly in the middle ring. However, over time I got stronger and found that I was far more efficient in the big ring. I still spin at 90-100 rpm, but in a higher gear. The other benefits are that the chain is straighter since I am in the middle of the rear cluster and shifter down to the middle gear is a easier shift than up to the big gear.
Yeah, I was wondering about that. I heard it's possible to swap out a triple for a double, but not sure I want to do that yet. My triple is 53/39/30... do you have the same number of teeth on your triple as mine? Plus, I hear doubles come as 53/39 or a compact 50/34, or something like that.
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I do have a 53/39/30 and I would probably buy a compact 50/34 if I had to do it again. Swapping them, however, is not really an option. In most cases you have to change not only the chain rings, but the shifter, front derailleur, rear deraileur (short arm vs long) and chain. Almost cheaper to by a new bike.
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Originally Posted by pjuarez
I do have a 53/39/30 and I would probably buy a compact 50/34 if I had to do it again. Swapping them, however, is not really an option. In most cases you have to change not only the chain rings, but the shifter, front derailleur, rear deraileur (short arm vs long) and chain. Almost cheaper to by a new bike.
Not quite. If you go to a compact, you need to lower the front derailleur slightly (if you buy the crank from your LBS, they'll do this for you for free typically) but you don't need to replace it. Rear derailleur absolutely does not need to be replaced as you are reducing chain wrap rather than increasing it, so it will easily handle the new setup. You should not need to replace a left shifter to go from triple to double as this can be adjusted to work on a double crank (you cannot adjust a double shifter to work on a triple crank). You also do not need to replace the chain as the new gear ratios will be within the same range as the old one and the rear derailleur will pick up the minimal extra slack. However, if you want to do things perfectly, you may shorten the chain (probably by one link).
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Originally Posted by clink83
But if you put a wing on it and a sweet body kit, thats +200hp brah!
The key is to put big money in your brakes. All the guys that want their cars to go faster spend lots on their brakes.
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The strongest I have ever been, in early 2009, I could ride by myself in rolling terrain and average 21.2mph for 2 hours. I can't even quite make 20mph average right now though but I am getting better. When I could ride 21+ is when I was a Cat2 and was maybe in the top 30 fastest riders in the state.
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well it says it won't let me send a private message til i reach 50 posts so I can't reply to your message but since that post I've been riding a lot and now i'm able to reach 30MPH on flat road but I donno how long I can keep that speed yet. I just wanna get a bigger crank cause I hear it's a lil easier to get up to speed with a bigger crank. Yeah it might be a lil harder prolly right? but id at least be able to reach a faster speed like in a sprint or maybe for longer huh?
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Hitting 30 isn't that hard. It's how long you can maintain it. Me? about 8 seconds.
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Originally Posted by chibibike
well it says it won't let me send a private message til i reach 50 posts so I can't reply to your message but since that post I've been riding a lot and now i'm able to reach 30MPH on flat road but I donno how long I can keep that speed yet. I just wanna get a bigger crank cause I hear it's a lil easier to get up to speed with a bigger crank. Yeah it might be a lil harder prolly right? but id at least be able to reach a faster speed like in a sprint or maybe for longer huh?
Umm , yeah, sure, if you say so ......
Actually, it's increased fitness that makes you faster.
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April 30, 21.5 miles (hills) in 1:10 - averaged 18.5

On the 6th of this month I did 73.5 miles in 4:27 - averaged 16.3 in some nasty wind.

Did 52 miles today in 3:10 - averaged 16.4 in some nasty wind.

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EDIT - sorta spaced out and replied to old stuff the first time.

chibibike - do you mean longer crank arms or a bigger chainring?

crank arm length should depend on body size/leg length. chainring size will give you a higher possible top speed but won't affect how easy it is to get to speed or how easy it is for you to hit 30 mph. basically, changing cranks won't help much.

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I think she's looking at swapping out chain rings. I took a look at the specs of the Trek Utopia and it's geared like a hybrid/mountain bike. Not exactly built for speed. It's an 11-32 on a 48/36/26. In the 48-11 @ 90 rpm is 30 mph.
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i donno i'm confused
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Originally Posted by badbradclark
Why take all the fun out of riding by focusing on your avg. speed. Ride your own ride and don't worry about comparing yourself to others. If you're training for competition, fine, but if you are doing it for the pure enjoyment of riding, just stop being concerned about it.

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is there a 9 speed crankset out there that has a 50 or bigger chain ring?
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Originally Posted by chibibike
is there a 9 speed crankset out there that has a 50 or bigger chain ring?
Yes, almost all road cranks come with 50 or 53, unless special ordered. A "Standard" double, is normally 53/39. A 50 is found on a "compact" double, usually 50/34 or 50/36. You can buy indivual chainrings to customize, but most people find one of the standard setups to be just fine.
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Just like drawing. You start doing crappy but if you keep at it there's only one way to go - up. Unless you injure yourself... But comparing to those better than you will make you improve as well as set some goals. Just don't let the comparison bring you down.
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yeah but usually cranksets are 10 speed I can't find any for 9 speed
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Originally Posted by chibibike
yeah but usually cranksets are 10 speed I can't find any for 9 speed
Ebay - 143 results for this search: (crankset, chainset) 9 -triple

I think Tiagra is 9 speed

Also, there's hardly any difference, so a 10 speed would probably work .... double check though.
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Cranksets are agnostic to the number of "speeds". All that matters is that you have the correct BCD for the chainrings and the proper BB spindle length.
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Originally Posted by bikerjp
Hitting 30 isn't that hard. It's how long you can maintain it. Me? about 8 seconds.
Pussу. I can hold that speed for a half hour.*


*Given a tall enough mountain with good roads that don't have tight switchbacks
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Originally Posted by chibibike
yeah but usually cranksets are 10 speed I can't find any for 9 speed
My '8' speed chain rings say '10 speed'
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