OK the posting about FD rubbing has inspired me to do an unscientific survey.

I suspect the majority of recreational cyclists have no clue what trim is or how/when to use it.

Poll is simple. What percentage of road cyclists do you think really understand the philosophy and use of the trim function?

I am guessing something like 15% but maybe I am giving my fellow cyclists too much credit.

I am trying to do this as a poll but perhaps I don't understand the philosophy or use of the BF Poll function.

I use it regularly on my red but to be honest I am dissapointed in the way it works. It only works on the big ring, in my opinion both small and big ring should have trim.

Lowcel, I am running ultegra 6700 and use it all the time.

I can't speculate on how many know what it is and how to use it. I do use it. Running Campy and the front shifter has wonderful trim functionality.

I think I am going to give in and purchase a 6700 front derailleur for my Colnago. I hate to do it but SRAM front derailleurs are a known problem on the CX1 frameset for some reason.

Campy definitely does it right. Something like five or seven different trim positions. There is no reason to ever have chain run with properly set up campy.

I have a 2006 Campy triple and I use it on all three chain rings but I seldom need it. Most of the time I don't have any chain rub.

I use it on both bikes: Campy Record on the Pegoretti and Chorus on the Calfee.

And I thought this was yet another shaving thread.

I was thinking something different as well, but I have a dirty mind.

Campy S/R works nicely

Something involving a Mohel?

I should get your opinion. I bought a used Calfee Tetra from a guy that loved his Pegoretti Marcelo but didn't really like carbon bikes. I love my Calfee but now am also interested in the Pegoretti. I test rode one once from a guy that was selling a Marcelo but I wasn't on it long enough to know.

Do you notice a difference in the ride and performance of the two bikes?

By the way, I looked up trim in the dictionary. It means a few different things. Beside stopping the rub on the front dr. it means to loose weight, of course, and it is slang for having sex.

Huh? Prediction of poll results: "I" know more than "them".

No doubt The Lake Wobegone Effect in force here.

That's what the girl at the hair salon was asking me???
Now you tell me!

I have a Campy triple on one bike, and Shimano on the others.
I always wonder what is stopping Shimano from making their FD as adjustable as Campy.

Agreed. I'm sure people in the other thread assumed that I'm one of the "ignorant" or "stupid" ones, but that's not the case. I have Shimano on all my bikes and would love more adjustability.

Even if someone doesn't know the correct term, when their chain rubs their front derailleur cage, they either shift, or, move the front shifter thingy until the noise goes away - right?

Is this one of those things people with indexed shifting worry about?

You would think so....but not necessarily.

One of my bike club mates heard me talking about trim on a recent ride and after the ride he approached me and asked about it. I demonstrated it for him on his own bike and he was like, "Wow I just thought I couldn't use those gears where I get FD rub."

He had no clue. And this guy is a fairly experienced rider.

Yup, I use it.

Good trim is worth the money.

Exactly.
The closer the front shifting mimics friction, the better.

Wow. I guess some people aren't mechanically inclinded (which would explain not trying to move the FD to compensate)?

And didn't Lance use an indexing rear, and friction front?