LiquidEssence

Beaker: I will most certainly teach myself how to adjust DR on one of my old bikes in the next few months after I finish my faculty obligations; I agree that I need to know how to adjust these things properly if I don't want to take it for repairs when it's actually just in need of a tune-up
But for this once, becuase it is a completely new bike, I will rather take it to the store because it is quite possible (and that is coming from a friend of mine who really knows his way around the mechanics of the bike quite well) that it is not just the problem of adjusting the H and L screws and the cable tension, but that it might be something more complicated and is in that case better that the people at the store deal with it. But I thank you very much for offering your help and definitely look forward to your advice when something else comes up!

Palomar01

I consider myself mechanically inclined myself (work on my cars and motorcycles). But I don't have enough experience fine tuning a bicycle's DR's. Last time I tried I failed and didn't have the patience to continue. For a mere $55, I had my local mechanic do it. LOL! He did an excellent job!

Beaker

OP, don't sweat it, I'm not trying to suggest you should be able to fix everything yourself, just that the only thing you told us was that the RD was unusable - which could be a whole bunch of things. If you're not looking for any suggestions about it that's fine.

BTW, I went from clueless to feeling comfortable with adjusting gears thanks to Park Tool's excellent reference. I thoroughly recommend this

https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-...nts-derailleur

LiquidEssence

Yes, I began lookign at those pages as well, they're frekin' excellent!

byrnemm

Unrelated, that is one beautiful bike!

LiquidEssence

Thank you. I'll start to apreciate it, once it'll be in riding condition, cuz I'm pretty depressed right now with the way it was sold to me

Painful Chafe

My measurements are nearly identical. I ride a 54 Synapse. When I did my measurements on a couple of websites, I always came in at a stretched out 52 or a shortened 54. I ended up with a 54. I just put on a 90mm stem, have the seat a little low, and I'm happy with the fit. I'm pretty confident with your measurements and the picture you posted the 52 is good for you.

Here is a picture of my set up with a bonus- Jack, our GSD. He poked his head in. Perfect timing.

LiquidEssence

Thank you Painful Chafe, I apreciate your opinion!

p.s.: that's a nice bike! And te dog is cool as well!

flaco

Fit looks pretty decent to me. Don't worry about standover height, it's overrated as a fit metric. You almost never stand that way over your bike during normal riding. Usually when stopped, you have one foot on a pedal, with the bike leaning toward the unclipped foot.

ahsposo 

Pervert.

ahsposo 

Yeah, the glance I had I was like, "Dadgum! Might be too small, BWDIK?"

Six jours

The frame size is fine. Your seat's too far forward, and it's tilted too far downward.

igknighted

Agreed... I thought the reach looked really short at first. But then, his hands were a little back from the hoods, which could indicate that he's not comfortable reaching all the way to the hoods. Hard to say. It's definitely about as close as you are going to get off the shelf before a fitting.

LiquidEssence... I think you are a perfect example of why compact geometry frames are en vogue. You could keep the same reach, but get a little more stand-over height. While that bike is almost certainly the right size for that style frame, you might have had better luck on another brand that uses a more compact (sloping) geometry. As for modifying this frame, if those photos are pretty indicative of your position, I would slide the saddle forward on the rails some (and if you can't, look into investing in a zero setback post). You seem to be a bit behind KOPS and reaching a little too far, as well as your concern about the seat being too high. This one adjustment could solve all three issues.

EDIT: I think the moral of the story here is there is a lot more to a properly fitting bike than picking the right size. If you're investing that much in the bike, spend the couple hundred more and find a good fitter in your area and get a proper fitting. It's like being a really nice suit and not getting it hemmed/tailored to fit you properly (even if you did get the "right size").

oldbobcat

I agree, especially for guys (and gals) with relatively short legs. If you'd bought a 50 you'd need a longer stem.

LiquidEssence

Thank you for your opinions. I guess that the frame size is alright and I will tell the guys at the shop to make me a fit i.e. to adjust my saddle and hanndlebar position

igknighted: yes I might have to look at a zero setback seat post (p.s.: just in response to your sentence "but her hands ..:" I have long hair, but I'm a guy, as can probably be seen from those really hairy legs )

igknighted

Sorry!

LiquidEssence

Haha, it's no big deal, you don't have to apologize

Anyway jsut to update: I've been to the store today where the head service guy looked at the bike. The deal was, that the RD carrier (I don't know if that is the correct term; it's the thing to which the derailleur attaches itself, the small plate that is then attached to the frame) was bent. Also the pedals were screwed on so lightly that when he was pedalling it on the stand, the pedal just released itself from the crank and dropped into his hand. The guy who put the bike together obviously did a really lousy job. Anyway, 20 min later the bike was set and now I'm back home and I'm just glad it's working the way it was supposed to in the beginning. People at the shop were really considerate and apologized a lot of times.

Also, because of the feedback here and from one of my friends who also knows a lot about bikes, because he was practically a semi-pro in his teens, I didn't stress so much importance on the size of the frame. We adjusted the saddle height and left the saddle position as it was (really forward; because that way I can reach the hoods without my arms being stretched out to the max). After I will put a certain amount of mileage on it, I will be able to asses more accurately how the bike should be set up and in the extreme case I will either shorten the stem by 10mm or get a seatpost that doesn't have a setback.

Stannian

I have been selling bicycles to people for 7 years. It looks perfect. That size leaves you options to play with adjustments with seat and stem if you need to. Have fun.

LiquidEssence

Thank you Stannian for your input, I apreciate it!

giantdefy

If your inseam is 78cm and the standover height of the size 52 is 76.5, shouldn't you be able to clear the top tube easily with shoes on?
If you need to push your seat all the way forward is a clear indicator that you may be one size too big or your stem is way too long.
Your measurements suggest you should be on a size 52, but it just doesn't look right to me.

MikeyBoyAz

may I make one recommendation? it happens to be assess, not asses... the latter is plural for ass.


Oh, yeah... the fitting looks nice...

now lets appreciate the harry legs... if you had shaved no one would even guess with that flowing long hair.

LiquidEssence

One more question: I was adjusting the saddle height today and I noticed that the clamp that holds the seatpost has about a 1 mm clearence from the frame, in other words it is not directly above the frame, but there is a very small gap and you can see the seatpost. When it was untightened I could not get it lower. I suppose that is normal, since the carbon frame is not meant to be squeezed in any way?

p.s.: MikeyBoyAz: yes assess that is the correct word I agree My first language aint' English so I sometimes make dumb mistakes

BarracksSi

If nothing else, this is what needs to be done. There's just no excuse for letting a bike go out the door that doesn't work right.

LiquidEssence

Update:

I rode the bike for 130 km today. The shifting is nice and smooth although I still have to get completely used to it.

But there was a strange noise that I heard when I was out of the saddle and pedalling really hard uphill and really rocking the bike left and right while doing it. It was a damp sound (like I would hit on the frame with my knuckles) that I could feel in my handlebars whenever I rocked the bike right and pushed really hard on the pedals. It was quite annoying so I called the shop and some of my friends who also ride carbon bikes, and they said that it is nothing wrong and it will be dissapear with mileage and is to be expected at this stage. Also the sound did go away at times even while I was pedalling hard, but then came back again at other times.

All the bolts are tightened pretty hard on the bike as I checked with my torque wrench and I also sprayed some chain lube on the skewers just in case, but I guess it's nothing to worry about?

roadiejorge 

Judging by the height and inseam measurements you provided the 52cm SuperSix shouldn't be too big at all. I'm 5'8" (172.7cm) and have a 31" inseam (78.7cm) and ride bikes very similar in geometry to the SuperSix. Your seat post seems a bit low even in spite of the more traditional TT of the SuperSix, are you sure you have your seat set up to the right height? Unless you have a very short torso it would seem that bike is a good size for you, anything smaller might be too small.